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Shipping from Europe to US...Duties?

  1. kippyk Oct 31, 2017

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    Anybody have experience with shipping used watches from an EU country to the US? I have heard that FedEx and the other carriers are very diligent about collecting duty (this is a profit center for them). However, packages from a foreign postal service that transfers to the United States Postal Service will often not be charged duty. Anybody have any experience on this? What would be the duty on $5,000 watch?
     
  2. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Oct 31, 2017

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    The duty is complicated, because there are many factors/ variables buried in the rules. Literally a couple dozen pages of tables that break it down by movement type, presence of precious metals, etc.

    That being said, I have had 2 watches shipped from Australia and one from the EU, and none were tagged for owing import taxes/ duty. I believe EMS (Australia) and DHL (EU) were used by the sellers.
     
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  3. kippyk Oct 31, 2017

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    What were the value of the watches?
     
  4. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Oct 31, 2017

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    It is true that watches shipped through the USPS are rarely tagged for customs, while those shipped with FedEx and other couriers are.

    A couple of points:

    It is not merely a "profit center" for Fedex, it's the law.

    Duties on vintage watches coming into the states are very low in comparison with other countries, assuming that the shipper knows how to use the system.
     
  5. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 31, 2017

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    More or less, Fed almost always does these days. Sometimes DHL does not.
    USPS , I've never been charged from anywhere in the world.

    I any event, it is not that much at all compared what the folks in the EU and Au get charged.
     
  6. kippyk Oct 31, 2017

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    I agree it's the law but Fedex collects a fee for this service so they are making money on collecting the duties as well. I think the USPS has come to the conclusion they do not have the manpower and would lose money on each transaction if they aggressively monitored the shipments.
     
  7. jhross98 Oct 31, 2017

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    interestingly on my last few from europe. . dhl definitely does but fedex has not

    at any rate up to 10k its pretty small dollars
     
  8. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 31, 2017

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    Yea and it’s stupid to risk loss by not declaring ... Penny wise and pound foolish. Fedex is completely trustworthy and easy to work with. Agree what we pay is peanuts compared to what EU citizens pay.
     
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  9. jhross98 Oct 31, 2017

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    well without knowing exactly how the customs schedule works (its obscenely complicated), one question is if you declare the correct value and use a registered shipper like fedex or dhl. . if they don't charge you customs i assume you're clean at that point without other obligations ?
     
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  10. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Oct 31, 2017

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    They charge a fee because they facilitate the process significantly. The fact that the USPS is broken, like so many fundamental services in the U.S., is irrelevant. If you are going to declare goods, FedEx streamlines the process considerably, and it is well-worth the extra charge.
     
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  11. kkt Oct 31, 2017

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    Customs misses a lot of small shipments, but the penalty if they are found to have been shipped with a dishonest or incomplete declaration is severe. FedEx collects the highest amount the customs might be if it is targeted for collection, plus FedEx's own fee. Sending it postal service to postal services and fully declaring it means the recipient might have to be pay the customs fee, but might get lucky. On the other hand, postal service loss rate is probably higher. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
     
  12. CharlesGenta Oct 31, 2017

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    How does this work? Say the seller shipped with FedEx/DHL. Do you then pay FedEx/DHL the duty owed when they come knocking at your door to drop the package?
     
  13. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 31, 2017

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    You get a bill.
     
  14. CharlesGenta Oct 31, 2017

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    A bill from customs or you pay to DHL/FedEx (which then pays to customs)?
     
  15. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 31, 2017

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    From carrier.
     
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  16. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Oct 31, 2017

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    You will have to pay on delivery if you do not have an account. If you have an account (with FedEx, for example), then they will simply charge you.
     
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  17. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Oct 31, 2017

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    $2,800 - $6,500 USD range.
     
  18. Honza Nov 3, 2017

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    I got shipment from Japan to USA. FedEx I did not pay anything and EMS I did pay between 6-7% and had to write a check before i could get the package.
     
  19. panaitchrono Nov 3, 2017

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    I'm from Europe and I sent watches in US with postal services without insurance and nobody asked for the values of the watches so the person from US can say it's a gift or I don't know declare a lower value and doesn't have to pay custom fees..Instead when I received watches from US and the seller declare the value of the watch here they put me to pay about 24% of that price...::facepalm2::
     
  20. Watchmutt Nov 3, 2017

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    I agree about USPS. I don't recall this ever being an issue.