Selling warranty cards on eBay?

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I doubt the cards themselves are counterfeit even if they’re bound to be used to sell counterfeits...
 
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So back to the initial post, if this was reported to Ebay, wouldn't they take the sale of the cards down? Aren't they obviously fraudulent and or counterfeit?
No, they are genuine Omega cards that got separated from the watch they originally came with. Nothing fraudulent about them.
 
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I doubt the cards themselves are counterfeit even if they’re bound to be used to sell counterfeits...
If that were the case they would be a whole lot more than 30 dollars.
 
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Worth a try. if they don't, it would be interesting to hear their explanation. THANKS!
 
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So back to the initial post, if this was reported to Ebay, wouldn't they take the sale of the cards down? Aren't they obviously fraudulent and or counterfeit?
they wouldn't give two dicks
 
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You're over-thinking things. These are most likely warranty cards that weren't passed on to grey dealers by the AD that supplied them the watch, or they were passed on to the grey dealer who is now selling them to make some pocket money.

I hear you, but being sold... to what end? Your point is well taken insofar as it explains why someone would sell them. (To make money, naturally.) Why would someone want to buy one? That was my initial question. And I’m asking in earnest. I’m really wondering if there’s a legitimate reason; I’m having a difficult time thinking of one, but I’m not trying to be close minded or stubborn about it.

The whole point, to echo your sentiment, is that these are (I have to assume) legit warranty cards being resold sans watch. They are not in themselves fraudulent and would not be illegal to sell per se. So I don’t believe there’s any point in reporting them to eBay.
 
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Well,there are a few things to say about this.

1. Anyone who is able to make decent replicas of real watches is of course easily able to make replicas of paperwork. This is why it's slightly stupid to assume that buying a watch with papers makes it much less possible to be a fake watch... Thus, there is not much reason for a faker to buy papers off eBay, when he can make those himself.

2. Not so long ago Omega ADs were given blank papers to fill them out themselves. Some did some didn't, mostly depending on who they were selling to - grey dealer, clients... Also there were always blank left overs with the ADs when new cards were issued by Omega. So, that's one reason why so many blank cards are around. I don't think that there are many that have been separated from watches.

3. Also not so long ago there was no such hype about paperwork as there is now. In any forum and FB group the so-called experts tell the newbies how important it is to buy with box and papers. Now even watches from the early seventies and sometimes sixties get hard to sell because people tend to expect paperwork for those watches - which also is slightly stupid. Especially sport watches were not really considered collectors items back then and no one really cared for warranty cards, once the warranty was run out. Paperwork was, what it should be today: just a nice part of a nice accessoires set around a watch. But if you want to sell your Flightmaster today and people won't buy it off you because you don't have paperwork with it, why shouldn't you buy a blank card on eBay from the right era? I don't see much wrong with that as long as you leave the card blank...

4. All this fuzz about paperwork is only possible because they are massivly overrated. Of course buyers want to have a kind of security when buying vintage or used watches but thinking that papers give you that is pretty wrong. Mainly because whoever can produce a replica can of course also produce paperwork. Also there are blank papers to be found for about any watch and if you are in bad faith you can turn them into filled papers. But all in all this would not be so bad if paperwork would not be that overrated - in a way that it adds another third of the value to a watch. Maybe once this is realised it will help to give papers the real value they deserve...
 
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So, that's one reason why so many blank cards are around. I don't think that there are many that have been separated from watches.
The cards that the OP provided the ebay link to are not blank. they have the reference and movement number printed on them.
How they can be of any use to makers of fake watches escapes me.
Cards that don't have those details are a different kettle of fish.
 
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The cards that the OP provided the ebay link to are not blank. they have the reference and movement number printed on them.
How they can be of any use to makers of fake watches escapes me.

I put way more stock in your (collective) expertise than I do in my own---I'm a newbie to Omega watches. But here, for example, is a card for a PO from c.2008. Here's a complete set for a lady's Constellation from the same vintage. Some of these watches resell for 3-6k---again, maybe not here at OF, but elsewhere. If you're able to make a good fake or if you have one in your possession and have the means to do a (probably crappy but amateurishly passable?) job at laser-etching a serial on the watch, wouldn't that be worth doing? I bet there are a lot of uninformed buyers out there who, given the choice, would probably move on a watch that had a sketchily engraved serial # matched to a nicely printed card before they'd move on a legit watch with either no card at all or only a hand-written one, even though hand-written cards can be perfectly legit.

But maybe I'm wrong!---I hope I am, and that this card resale thing is totally benign. But then I keep coming back to the same question: why else would someone buy a random warranty card if not for some kind of nefarious end? I'm guessing people aren't allowed to resell, say, registrations for new vehicles... It just feels off to me. But "off" isn't the same as illegal.


But all in all this would not be so bad if paperwork would not be that overrated - in a way that it adds another third of the value to a watch. Maybe once this is realised it will help to give papers the real value they deserve...

And this might just be the long and short of it: that knowing this warranty resale business is happening, one shouldn't put any stock in the presence or absence of a card when buying, especially if it's a watch out of warranty anyway.
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Makes me want to comb through the listings and compile all the serials (that aren’t obscured) to document them here for future vigilance. But, then, that would take time.
Crowd funded from the forums?
 
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I know some used watch seller that buy this kind of card and box put them with used watch and charge 30% more and marked as fullset with box and papers, he used some kind of chemical to wiped out the initial ink and mark it with the watch in his inventory