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Seiko 6309-7040 dial originality?

  1. Yo32Leigh Sep 5, 2022

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    Hi all,
    I've managed to aquire this 'Turtle' which I'm currently in the process of repairing. It came with a 'stuck' bezel, which turned out to be a cheap crystal replacement which was not fitted correctly, jamming up the bezel.
    The addition of a better quality crystal has resolved the bezel issue and it now works a treat. I'm now turning my eye to the rest of the watch.
    I've done some research on the dial and it seems to be consistent with the 1977 date of this watch. Specifically the Suwa logo (used for pre 81 watches produced in Japan I believe), and the pronounced bevel around the day/date window.
    My only real concern is it looks too clean if I'm honest. The lume on the dial and hands appears consistent.
    Can anyone offer any other opinions or telltales I might be missing?
    Cheers
     
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  2. mountainunder Sep 5, 2022

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    I don't know if this will be helpful, but I'll leave a picture of my 6306-7000.
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  3. bardamu Sep 23, 2022

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    Looks original and nice to me.
     
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  4. janice&fred Sep 23, 2022

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    My opinion is original as well, and I seen millions of 'em in the south pacific so I should be able to spot an imitation.
     
  5. Arancio601 Sep 28, 2022

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    Dial looks original to me too. The lume on the repro’s is often finer. My birth year. Not a September by any chance?
     
  6. ekallus Oct 2, 2022

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    It looks original to me.
    On repro dials, the small print at 6 is never as fine as this and in most cases, incorrectly spaced.
     
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  7. mostlywabisabi Oct 2, 2022

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    Looks original to me too! It's been awhile since I researched these so the reproductions might have got better, but the usual telltale signs of a fake were the lack of a beveled day/date window. I also noticed the original dials have marker lume plots there are not perfectly centered, whereas the aftermarket ones were bang on centered.
     
  8. Yo32Leigh Oct 8, 2022

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    Unfortunately it's a June '77' watch :thumbsup:
     
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  9. morethan1 Nov 3, 2022

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    Looks fine. Giveaways are the day date window cutout, the printing & pattern on the lume.
     
  10. WarrenEllis Dec 24, 2022

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    ...and the lume pip on the bezel being too small, and the bottom marker going too low towards the insert. As mentioned above though, AM parts might have become "better" (i.e harder to spot) in the last few years.
     
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  11. bigsom Dec 24, 2022

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    This one is original
     
  12. WarrenEllis Dec 25, 2022

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    Agreed, just wanted to add some relevant info if someone finds this thread later and wants a rundown on how to spot a fake "Turtle"!
     
  13. SOG53 Jan 12, 2023

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    This one is AM dial
    SEIKO text is off and not in typical shimmery silver paint
    Lume is very raised and shiny and look how it glows!!
    Hand steel edges are more rounded, not sharp
    Date window is a little beveled but not enough
    Bezel is also AM small shiny lume pip

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  14. bardamu Jan 16, 2023

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    ...and "A" at six are pointy and not flat as they should be.
     
  15. SOG53 Jan 18, 2023

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    Good point!!