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Seamaster Grand Luxe

  1. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    Greetings all. Was anyone here after this SM Grand Luxe on the bay?

    Am glad to be back on ΩF, and looking for some thoughts or opinions on this piece!

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  2. dsio Ω 2

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 2, 2013

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    Its a Norman Morris US cased Seamaster, the Grand Luxe moniker was a little out of place on this one but its original
     
  3. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    Besides the missing swan neck regulator, I had my doubts about the crown too. Any thought on whether its original to the model?
     
  4. cicindela Ω 2

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member May 2, 2013

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    I have a NOS 2846 GC and it has a basic clover leaf crown. However, this model with this dial is basically a one off design and it would be very difficult to say. You would have to find more of these to compare with. Kyle had an image of one of these, perhaps he still has it.

    As far as the regulator, remember this is not a chronometer.
     
  5. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 2, 2013

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    Steve.

    The swan neck is missing, there are two holes there for nothing
     
  6. cicindela Ω 2

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member May 2, 2013

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    Here are some image from a previous thread. All have the basic clover crown
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  7. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    The very few images I could find online all had the basic 4 or 5 leaf clover crowns, none with this style, but the matching color to the case implies original (?)
     
  8. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    Again, all the images of this model I could find with revealed movements all showed the 501 with the regulator. As long as those holes are there, I guess it would be easy to install a new one. Atleast the rest of the movement seems all to match together, what's showing of it, that is!
     
  9. cicindela Ω 2

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member May 2, 2013

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    We need to call you Eagle Eye Hoi, though I must admit that I did not even look at it, thinking Mel was just discussing it not being a swan neck. Very sloppy of me.
     
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  10. gatorcpa Ω 2

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 2, 2013

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    Dial looks correct to me. I think that the Seamaster Grand Luxe was used with this case reference, so that's OK.

    Movement is missing the microadjustment part. That may or may not mean other pieces are missing.

    Case has also been heavily polished, maybe right through the gold-cap on the lugs.

    Unless it's real cheap, I'd pass on this one,
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  11. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 2, 2013

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    Thanks Steve. Erich said the same :D
     
  12. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    Yes, I see that heavy scratch on the top right lug... but the whole watch gave me the impression it was full of fine daily use scratches, but over polished? The bottom side of the lugs seem sharp?
     
  13. cicindela Ω 2

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member May 2, 2013

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    The bottoms generally appear sharper, but the top and ends of these wear down with even a little polishing or cuff exposure. Like Gator said, it depends on the price. It is a nice looking and unusual watch.
     
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  14. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    How do these Seamaster Grand Luxe models, if even in solid gold, compare to the Connie Grand Luxe's?
     
  15. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 2, 2013

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    To me, the value of this Seamaster Grand Luxe is the Dial only. Without that dial, it's a normal gold capped Seamaster with a plain caseback.

    If it is in 18K solid gold with a Seamonster on back and powered by a Chronometre. It will be a different story.
     
  16. gatorcpa Ω 2

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 2, 2013

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    Like bananas and raspberries. Both are fruit, but one is a lot more expensive than the other.

    Just remember that the dial on the Seamaster Grand Luxe isn't solid gold and on the Constellation Grande Luxe, it is.

    Also, almost no one outside of the USA knows about the Seamaster version, while the Constellaton was sold all over the world.

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  17. X350 XJR Ω 1

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado May 2, 2013

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    Actually not true, the dials on these are 18K gold.

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  18. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    Absolutely Hoi, that's definitely a winning trio on a Seamaster!
     
  19. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    Actually Gator, that's exactly why I prefer those vintage Seamasters to Connies! But I better be careful where I tread here...:whistling:
     
  20. Melhadary

    Melhadary May 2, 2013

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    Is that why they are called "Grand Luxe", or are there any other attributes?