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  1. generalbegg May 5, 2017

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    Hey everyone, I'm the super new guy around here! :) I've been collecting watches for a few years now and just got my first Omega and I really like it. I picked it up used with box, papers, and card and took it to my local Omega dealer to get sized. And this is where my dilemma starts. The salesman at the one and only Omega dealer where I live looks at it and says that he has never seen a GMT with a sliding hidden clasp that I have on this watch, and is concerned about it's authenticity. I asked if he could contact Omega to verify my SN and it's authenticity but he said that is something I would need to do. Anyway, I just wanted to post up some pictures of my first Omega to get some thoughts from the experts. I'm also going to contact Omega customer support and inquire about my watch.

    Does anyone else have this timepiece? If so, what are your thoughts on it.

    Thanks!

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  2. Maganator May 5, 2017

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  3. tyrantlizardrex C is NOT for "Lizard". May 5, 2017

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  4. w.finkenstaedt May 5, 2017

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    This is legit. That clasp was used as it's not technically a dive watch. Most boutique staff don't know anything about past watches, just have them check Journey Through Time next time; it'd say that it was sold on a sliding clasp (or have the check on Extranet, the bracelet ref will match what's on file).
     
  5. generalbegg May 5, 2017

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    Thanks so much guys, much appreciated! I suspect you are correct on him only knowing what is current as his only motivation he had seemed to be showing me his new watches and not really addressing my request for the watch I had in hand. Since I don't have a service record on this watch would you recommend that I send it in for service or just wear it and enjoy it?
     
  6. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker May 5, 2017

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    Most of these GMT's have the Speedmaster style bracelet and clasp on them for the 22345000 model. This is the US edition, so it's a 25345000, and uses the more Bond style bracelet with that clasp, so as long as it was sold as a 25345000, then you got what you paid for. There is a very popular seller on WUS (if that's where you got it) who loves to mix and match parts, and I have had a number of watches sold by him come to me for service and were advertised as one model, but turned out to be another model when I checked the serial number. If you PM me the serial number for the watch. I can check to see what model it should be if you like.

    As for service, if you don't have evidence that it's been serviced recently, I would at least get someone to check the condition.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  7. padders Oooo subtitles! May 6, 2017

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    My understanding is that all of these came on this Bond style bracelet with sliding clasp initially from launch in 1998, not just in the US up until the Great White was released a few years later on a brushed Speedy style and from then the Black GMT was also offered on The mixed finish Speedy style too. My 1998 one was UK supplied like this on the sliding clasp.
     
  8. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker May 6, 2017

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    I guess the point is these are two different models or references.

    The 22345000 has only ever had one bracelet for it, the 1610/930 Speedy style.

    The 25345000 has also only had one bracelet for it, the 1513/825 Bond style.

    There are only 5 versions of this black GMT watch, and the other three all come on straps.

    The 25345000 is listed as follows: Watch SE DIV 300 M Gents GMT USA

    It may not have been marketed as a USA model. The watch head on all these are exactly the same, so only the bracelet changes. If your came on the Bond style bracelet, it's a 25435000, not a 22345000.

    Cheers, Al
     
  9. ras47 May 6, 2017

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    The OP's Seamaster looks to be 2234.50.00. Lots of pics out there with the exact same claps so it definitely looks legit.
     
  10. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker May 6, 2017

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    ::facepalm1::
     
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  11. padders Oooo subtitles! May 6, 2017

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    Did you read the posts above? It most certainly isn't a 2234.50, it is a 2534.50 as Archer clearly said, hence the facepalm meme.
     
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  12. ras47 May 6, 2017

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    I did read the post above but MISread it. And no, I don't care about post counts. Seems silly to me, but YMMV.
     
  13. padders Oooo subtitles! May 6, 2017

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    I quickly redacted that part of my comment while you were posting as I realise you are already over the threshold for Sales access, so have nothing to gain from extra posts. Fair enough, Omega PIC codes are baffling and have only got more so now that come in 14 digit varieties, though there is usually an underlying logic.
     
  14. ras47 May 6, 2017

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    Heck, I just started learning what the different number groups mean in each model number. "Oooooh, so that's the CASE SIZE! Interesting..." :0
     
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  15. w.finkenstaedt May 6, 2017

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    They're actually more logical now, imo. Far more descriptive.
     
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  16. padders Oooo subtitles! May 6, 2017

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    V true but they are even harder to remember and don't exactly trip off the tongue. I wonder what a 2254 would be know as today?
     
  17. w.finkenstaedt May 6, 2017

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    212.30.41.20.01.001 [emoji16]

    And then that model would be 01.002 [emoji23]

    212 for Diver 300M, 30 for steel on steel, 41 for diameter, 20 for automatic with one barrel, 01 for black dial, and 001 for first in the series. [emoji1360]
     
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  18. U5512 May 6, 2017

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    Your watch is legit as I have the same EXACT watch with the same EXACT bracelet.
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  19. TNTwatch May 6, 2017

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    But it's no where to be found on the watch so it's essentially useless to anyone without access to Extranet. The guessing and confusion in this thread demonstrate this. Even when the watch is accompanied by the pictogram, there's no way for most buyers to verify if the PIC is true for everything on the watch or not.
     
  20. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker May 6, 2017

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    Before I came into the thread with information from the Extranet 2 examples were shown with the correct reference number for the OP's watch as shown. People verify watches by comparing them to others all the time, so knowing the exact reference number so you can do a proper comparison would be a useful thing for people I think.
     
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