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Seamaster De Ville dial - original or repainted?

  1. njvintage Mar 1, 2020

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    Hi everyone. I nabbed this piece in an auction - something I've been hunting for a while. Only caught the tail end of the auction so had to make a quick call. Now I'm wondering whether the dial is all original or not - in particular noting how the "L" and the "E" in "De Ville" appear to blur together which is not how they should on an original dial. Hard to tell whether this is just blurriness of the photos, a function of uneven printing on the linen dial, or a repainted dial. Would appreciate any feedback from the pros :) Thanks.

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  2. Dan S Mar 1, 2020

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    Looks ok to me at first glance.
     
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  3. njvintage Mar 2, 2020

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    Thanks everyone! (though still happy to take feedback if anyone has a different perspective). Cheers!
     
  4. OMEGuy Mar 2, 2020

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    At first glance, I'm missing the "T" near the "SWISS MADE".

    Do you have higher resolution pics?
     
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  5. Professor Mar 3, 2020

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    I'll dig mine out later, but I don't remember it having the T markings either. The T is for tritrium lume. Not all of them have it.
    I don't think mine had ever had any lume at all.
     
  6. padders Oooo subtitles! Mar 3, 2020

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    Looks good. They don’t usually have Ts if pre ~1963 even if the lume used was tritium and even after that some lumed dials lack them so it might just be early. Some Omegas even after 1963 have none, some 1, some 2.
     
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  7. njvintage Mar 3, 2020

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    Thanks, this is all really helpful. I don't have higher resolution pics at the moment but can take some when it arrives later this week.

    @Professor, would definitely be interested to hear whether yours has the T marking.

    Don't have the ref number either (yet) so can't cross-check the exact year...
     
  8. OMEGuy Mar 3, 2020

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    It seems like the markers were designed to bear tritium dots on their ends, but I can't see any lume, while it's present on the hands. Similar watches I've seen date to post '63 production and have at least one "T" near the "SWISS MADE" and I'm not convinced the print is clear and precise.

    That's why I asked for better pictures.

    Edit: Here is an example of what I had in mind:

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  9. KingCrouchy Mar 3, 2020

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    Is it me or do some of the indexes look oxidated? A pretty much spotless dial, oxidated indexes and perfectly fine hands, looks bit weird to me.
     
  10. Vitezi Mar 3, 2020

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    Hard to tell if you have a repainted dial from those pictures. You won't know until you have the watch in hand. Fonts and kerning look ok but check the minute marker spacing relative to the hour markers. Always be extra suspicious of fresh white dials with black print.
     
  11. Edward53 Mar 3, 2020

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    This, I think. All looks fine to me.