I’m evaluating purchasing the below Seamaster. I believe it’s an early 50s 2577 with a 35* movement, but I’m still waiting on photos of the insides to confirm.

At first glance it looks good, but I have some concerns - particularly about the dial:
1) crosshair doesn’t extend full width of the dial. Typically I would find this to be a telltale sign of redial but I’m struggling to find another example with this painted numeral dial design to confirm for sure. Perhaps that’s a sign in and of itself. Has anyone seen a dial of this design with a crosshair?
2) lume appears present on the markers with the exception of the ones at 3, 9, and 12 - sign of dial cleaning?
3) lume on the hands seems artificially white

Thoughts?

 

I'd go for it for a gamble, not with serious money (the quality of the pictures is too low for me to make a cool headed decision, I can see what I want to see...)

 

Omega date at 6:00 Seamaster, calibre 355, original cross hair dial, waffle texture. FWIW.

 

Here is an example I had. The crosshair should go through the middle of the E and first peak of the M.

I suspect the one in the OP may be a redial. The line also looks irregular as it passes through the applied logo.

 

I don't think it's a redial. There are no hard rules in Vintage Omega. I don't think the crosshair always has to go through the whole dial. Every other watch listed above is of a different caliber and dial style.

I'd go for it.

If you don't please send it my way!

 

Tough one. I like my crosshairs to go across the entire dial on dome dialed Omegas, but there are exceptions. A bit odd that they cross into the square where the lume would have been.

Are you sure that the dial hasn't been cleaned? It doesn't look as if there is much lume left.

 

I'm smelling a gambling watch here : many questions, blurry pictures

 

The crosshair would even go through the applied numbers? The crosshair doesn't look perfect in any regard, which is why another picture would be helpful. Nevertheless, I also just think the seamaster font looks correct and I don't often see redials that try to replicate that swirled "S" so just based in that I'd feel comfortable taking the gamble if it isn't that expensive.

What are the chances you can get another picture?

 

I think it looks fine. Yes, the lume is missing at 3, 9, and 12, it could have been wiped away with even a gentle clean, it can be pretty fragile especially with nothing surrounding to protect it.

The numerals on these are actually mirror finish and not applied and the daggers are part of the dial surface and not applied for this dial as well.

Since the ends of the cross-hairs would have been covered by the lume at 3, 9, and 12 I see no reason that their ending inside the boxes would be of concern, seems logical to me actually.

 

Here’s another photo - the other one was more clear.

 

@ConElPueblo The lume at 3, 6, 9, and 12 is definitely gone or mostly gone, but it seems like most of the lume on the other markers are still present. I don’t see any other signs of cleaning but that is definitely a possibility.

@X350 XJR I had the same thought on the crosshair.. if the numerals were applied then I would have expected them to go to the edge of the dial but in this case I wasn’t sure what to expect.

@BenBagbag I’ll let you know

 

I'm going with redial. There's a couple of reasons: the crosshair beneath the AML - it's crooked and off centre (the off-centre comment I'm making based on the second photo and I'm open to it being down to the angle ... but on balance I think it's off-centre). Second is the gap either side of the square at 3 ... it doesn't look like typical wear to me. Looks more like an issue with the print.

I'm nowhere near being 100% on a redial ... but I'm edging over 60% to it being that.

 

Some "defects" may be optical illusions created by scratches on the plexi.

 

No doubts ... but in this case I think those two are on the dial.

 

I've followed Norman for years and have never known him to be wrong.
This could be the first time......but I bet it's not.

 

I can get it for $475, and unfortunately it looks like movement photos aren’t gonna happen. I’ve asked for additional photos (again), but seems unlikely.

 

Price seems reasonable, but it would benefit from some light restoration.

Sure. On a dome dial it is the standard layout while it never happens on pie pan dials*





*But then again... This is Omega.

 

(BOR is generic by the way)

Thanks @ConElPueblo - what do you mean by restoration? Obviously will need service prior to wearing, a good ultrasonic cleaning, ie the usual. No polishing and I wasn’t planning on having the dial touched.

 

If anything out of the usual should be done, I'd look at having the dial relumed. I cannot unsee those crossed lume boxes