Seamaster 60 Variant?

[hwa]

Hey folks,

I have what I *think* is a Seamaster 60 variant of the 166.062, but I can't find another dial like it. Anybody have any idea what I've got here? There are no markings on the outside of the case to show serial number or model number.

 

[X350 XJR]

hwa

There are no markings on the outside of the case to show serial number or model numbe

Those markings would be on the inside.

 

[hwa]

Yes, but my tools are not nearby at the moment. Was hoping someone might have seen this variant somewhere.

 

[X350 XJR]

Just a refinished dial.

 

[hwa]

You’re certain of that? Would be interested in seeing a resource if you know of one.

 

[flqt-9000]

hwa

You’re certain of that? Would be interested in seeing a resource if you know of one.

Just look at the seamaster writing and compare with the ones available online..

 

[Davidt]

Certainly a redial. Look closely at the text and the quality (or lack thereof) of each letter.

 

[hwa]

What about the minute track? Haven’t seen that on this reference. I suppose what Im asking is whether the dial is a fake or a refinish. That will dictate next steps. Maybe I’ll hunt a new dial or try to get a better refinish. Otherwise, unless Im missing something else, which I might be, the piece looks gen to me.

 

[masteroftime]

hwa

What about the minute track? Haven’t seen that on this reference. I suppose what Im asking is whether the dial is a fake or a refinish. That will dictate next steps.

You haven’t seen it because it doesn’t exist. It has been refinished without a doubt. That looks like a minute track from an 1803 track dial. Don’t you find it suspect that the hour markers cover some of the numbers on the minute track? Clearly a refinisher had a printing plate and just reused it. The font is also all wrong.

hwa

Maybe I’ll hunt a new dial or try to get a better refinish. Otherwise, unless Im missing something else, which I might be, the piece looks gen to me.

Unfortunately, you’ll be looking for likely a long time. Parts for this model watches rarely pop up. There was a poster from a few years ago who needed a bezel and I think it took him a few years before one popped up on ebay. The only dial that I ever saw separately come up for sale (in the 3-4 years I’ve kept an eye on these) sold a few months ago and I bought it for a project.

A better refinish isn’t really a great prospect. You’ll probably have to pay a refinisher $350+/- to make a custom plate for this dial and reprint. After all that, results will vary and you might not like the final result.

In the short term, your best bet is buying a project watch to make one good watch or selling this one and buying another. Otherwise, you’ll have to play the waiting game. But be careful as there were a few sellers online selling fake parts for these.

 

[hwa]

masteroftime

You haven’t seen it because it doesn’t exist. It has been refinished without a doubt. That looks like a minute track from an 1803 track dial. Don’t you find it suspect that the hour markers cover some of the numbers on the minute track? Clearly a refinisher had a printing plate and just reused it. The font is also all wrong.




Unfortunately, you’ll be looking for likely a long time. Parts for this model watches rarely pop up. There was a poster from a few years ago who needed a bezel and I think it took him a few years before one popped up on ebay. The only dial that I ever saw separately come up for sale (in the 3-4 years I’ve kept an eye on these) sold a few months ago and I bought it for a project.

A better refinish isn’t really a great prospect. You’ll probably have to pay a refinisher $350+/- to make a custom plate for this dial and reprint. After all that, results will vary and you might not like the final result.

In the short term, your best bet is buying a project watch to make one good watch or selling this one and buying another. Otherwise, you’ll have to play the waiting game. But be careful as there were a few sellers online selling fake parts for these.

Thank you. Much appreciated.

 

[kaplan]

If this is refinished, it would be a best case, because this model was faked, and fakers are very good at replicating patinas, so it could be a rep dial + rep patina

 

[hwa]

Update:

thanks to @masteroftime , i was able to replace the dial with a gen. Looking much better now!