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  1. kusjoe78 Jul 3, 2018

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    Hi everyone,

    I recently come across a nice Seamaster 501 ref 2846 with the big seahorse logo on its case back. The owner is willing to let go of the watch, but has put a price that in my opinion is a little too high.

    However, the watch looks fabulous to my un-trained eyes and would really appreciate all opinions and inputs regarding this watch. I am on the verge to close the deal,.however I know from past experience that impulse purchase don't go well will vintage watches,.and in this case I believe it is above the market price here.

    Please chime in your expertise on this piece, the following pictures are from seller. IMG-20180702-WA0024.jpg IMG-20180703-WA0004.jpg IMG-20180703-WA0005.jpg IMG-20180703-WA0006.jpg
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  2. Dan S Jul 3, 2018

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    Something about the alignment of the printed minute marks and the applied hour markers looks funny to me. It may be fine, but maybe wait for more opinions before buying.
     
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  3. seekingseaquest Jul 3, 2018

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    I agree with @Dan S on the markers - I’d expect the inside of the applied markers to line up with the inside of the printed marks (if not extend further), but see if you can find the same dial configuration to confirm whether that’s expected. The fonts look good to me.

    My only other hesitation is the lack of lume on the dial while the hands have the slots for lume (or vice versa). Again see if you can find other examples.

    Otherwise.. it looks great.
     
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  4. ulackfocus Jul 3, 2018

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    I'm having some trouble with the font of Seamaster. Can't put my finger on it though. I'd have to check other known correct examples (I've owned a couple, and so has @kyle L ) to be sure. I think John / @pitpro bought one from me so maybe he can help.
     
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  5. Noddyman Jul 3, 2018

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    Not familiar with these but I vote redial, that G in Omega just looks wrong.
     
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  6. kusjoe78 Jul 3, 2018

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    Thanks everyone for the fast inputs and helpful insights...did really learn alot from just reading the forum threads here.

    @Dan S and @seekingseaquest. Now that you mentioned about the printed seconds and the minute markers, they do look look off. Will try to search for some examples but then I am too inexperience to discern the original and really good redials (which is scary for me)

    Also when @ulackfocus and @Noddyman mentioned the font concerns, I have a hard look and realize that the alignment between the Omega Logo, printed Omega and printed AUTOMATIC seems kinds of misaligned. Should the O and U be aligned? and C a little bit closer in to A?
     
  7. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Jul 3, 2018

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    What was the price ??
     
  8. kusjoe78 Jul 3, 2018

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    If I convert to USD, it is around 558 USD.
     
  9. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Jul 3, 2018

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    If that was all good and not Redialed $558 would not of been too high :whistling:
     
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  10. ulackfocus Jul 3, 2018

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    My main concern is the shape of the S in Seamaster. If that's a late 50's watch, which it should be, that's too early for the rounded S. I think it should be some type of coat-hanger S.

    The dipping r is bothering me too.

    However, I might just be rusty.
     
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  11. kusjoe78 Jul 3, 2018

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    Agreed. Was ready to make the purchase if all is good and not a redial myself, but something holds me back and I decide to really make sure about this. Have made many bad purchase in the past, and this Forum did really help me make some great purchases as of late.
     
  12. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Jul 3, 2018

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    The second e in seamaster and the r

    Big logo seamaster I have

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  13. kusjoe78 Jul 3, 2018

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    Now you just made me want one....if it is alright, can you tell me the case ref for this watch. Really amazing piece you have there.
     
  14. ChrisN Jul 3, 2018

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    The dial looks a bit odd overall in the area of the printed ticks but, it could be fine. The Seamaster font looks like the earlier "rounded S". I posted some fonts here and the OP's watch Seamaster font looks like the 13.8 million serial one that I owned. That was a 354 so a little before the 501 shown above. The 23 million one I showed in the link is the "rounded S" we're used to seeing.

    Cheers, Chris
     
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  15. kusjoe78 Jul 3, 2018

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    Hmm...now I am confused.

    Is this an original dial or Repainted dial? Have told the seller that I will pass on this but will see about that as I am currently 50-50 on the purchase.
     
  16. kusjoe78 Jul 3, 2018

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    @ChrisN , Thanks for the link and your research. Is it safe to assume that this is an original dial as long as the cal serial is around the 13.8 mil - 14.9 mil?

    Is there anymore variation to those already posted by you at the other post? I have seen that while the " Se and R" part are almost correct, there are significant difference to the way the "amaste" was printed.

    FYI: I did get a seamaster recently that match exactly the 13.8mil Seamaster font. Many thanks to OF members who helped me here
     
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  17. ChrisN Jul 3, 2018

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    I wouldn't assume anything with Omega fonts in this period:cautious:. You can't judge just on serial numbers. I'd be pretty sure about that.

    Here's the rest of the dial for the one I owned at 13.8 mill. Your one seems to have the correct swiss made spacing and correct Automatic from what I can see but, England are playing Colombia so am a bit distracted! Don't just take my opinion...
    Cheers, Chris
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  18. seekingseaquest Jul 3, 2018

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    Coincidentally just stumbled upon a recently sold SeamasterPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network on eBay with a very similar dial configuration. Marker positioning on the above seems fine. Doesn’t help with other concerns though, besides maybe the “G” in Omega is similarly awkward.

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  19. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jul 3, 2018

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    I think it is ok, but it is very difficult to say without seeing it in person. It's quite unusual to see a dial that white in my opinion. 2846 that I used to own.

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  20. kusjoe78 Jul 4, 2018

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    Yes, I second that. Anyway I passed on the watch.

    Thanks everyone for the information and help.