Seamaster 2849-9sc find

southtexas · Nov 3, 2021

Hello all. I picked this head up as part of a multi-watch trade. Here’s my assessment:

watch case still shows bevels, looks fat all around.
Caseback logo strong
Crystal not signed
Crown not signed
57-58 production and 502 cal 16.7 mil serial
Dial and hands react equally to UV light, but hold zero charge
Dial is all original has turned yellowish/brownish (I’m guessing it started out silver or white)?
Watch winds but does not run

Given the need for service, missing parts and stained dial, is this watch worth saving or would it be better to serve as a donor? A service would cost me $300 plus (at least) crystal and crown. Am I better off just buying one in running condition? What would a crystal and crown cost me? I don’t know which part numbers I’m looking for, otherwise I would’ve used Google search.

Thanks in advance for the honest feedback.

MtV · Nov 3, 2021

Not a bad find actually - personally, I do like the patina / discoloration / damage of the dial, however you wanna call it. Beautiful dial configuration, too!

Re prices for plexi and crown: Depends on what you want. Takes this as rough estimates, but:

Generic crystal: 20$
Omega crystal: 70$
Service replacement clover crown: 30$
Correct flat foot clover crown: 60$

The movement doesn’t look drowned / rusty so I’d try to save it by having it serviced, I think - that is if you like the watch and would actually wear it. If you don’t I’d sell it as is.
A donor movement can be had for less than your servicing costs with a bit of patient, but it, too, would not be serviced…

watchyouwant · Nov 3, 2021

I think, the Omega Crystals are more expensive now......

Caliber561 · Nov 3, 2021

watchyouwant
I think, the Omega Crystals are more expensive now......

Indeed, Omega crystals are like $150+ now.

@ the OP, are you sure the crystal isn't signed? When they're heavily scratched up sometimes they can be hard to see.

This particular watch is in fair/good condition to me. The movement seems very clean, without rotor scraping or obvious corrosion. (Still needs a service) The case has been polished lightly, but most of the contours are still quite strong with the exception of the caseback. There's also only a little bit of rust within the caseback groove. In these 500-series snapbacks, it's hard to find a good piece that doesn't have lots of black pitting between the lugs and all about the caseback groove.

If you choose to give this the spa treatment, you're getting an Omega for about $300, serviced, right?. You could do a lot worse, IMO. That said, you could totally use this as a beater until you find a piece in running condition, and then use this as a donor.

southtexas · Nov 3, 2021

Caliber561
Indeed, Omega crystals are like $150+ now.

@ the OP, are you sure the crystal isn't signed? When they're heavily scratched up sometimes they can be hard to see.

This particular watch is in fair/good condition to me. The movement seems very clean, without rotor scraping or obvious corrosion. (Still needs a service) The case has been polished lightly, but most of the contours are still quite strong with the exception of the caseback. There's also only a little bit of rust within the caseback groove. In these 500-series snapbacks, it's hard to find a good piece that doesn't have lots of black pitting between the lugs and all about the caseback groove.

If you choose to give this the spa treatment, you're getting an Omega for about $300, serviced, right?. You could do a lot worse, IMO. That said, you could totally use this as a beater until you find a piece in running condition, and then use this as a donor.

I gave the crystal a good exam with a loupe, looking for any sign of the symbol. It might be there under those scratches, but it’s equally likely it was replaced at the same time as the crown. I’ll try some polywatch and then look again.

I was figuring the price of a spa treatment, plus the cost of the missing parts. Seems like these on eBay are $500 in working condition? Admittedly, I’m not familiar on the nuances/variations.

southtexas · Nov 9, 2021

Can anyone confirm if part #5140PY is the crystal I need for this? Or can someone direct me to a link which might have a parts manual showing the part numbers for particular models of watches? I’m still looking for crystal and crown. Thanks again for the continued help.

SkunkPrince · Nov 9, 2021

It's PZ5000. The 5140 is sometimes specified instead of the 5000 or as an alternate. PY is rose gold ring, PZ is steel.

Crown is 42023ST.

southtexas · Nov 9, 2021

SkunkPrince
It's probably a PZ5000. The 5140 is sometimes specified instead of the 5000 or as an alternate. PY is rose gold ring, PZ is steel.

Thank you, I assumed PY would be an important designator (figured color or date window). Any idea on the crown?

SkunkPrince · Nov 9, 2021

southtexas
Thank you, I assumed PY would be an important designator (figured color or date window). Any idea on the crown?

See above, I amended my post.

southtexas · Nov 9, 2021

SkunkPrince
See above, I amended my post.

Very helpful, I appreciate it.

Archer · Nov 9, 2021

southtexas
Can anyone confirm if part #5140PY is the crystal I need for this? Or can someone direct me to a link which might have a parts manual showing the part numbers for particular models of watches? I’m still looking for crystal and crown. Thanks again for the continued help.

Crystal is 063PZ5140

Current crown is 069ST42023.

Cheers, Al

SkunkPrince · Nov 9, 2021

Archer
Crystal is 063PZ5140

Current crown is 069ST42023.

Cheers, Al

Older charts say PZ5000. Do you know what the difference is between them? Has the 5000 been discontinued?

Archer · Nov 9, 2021

SkunkPrince
Older charts say PZ5000. Do you know what the difference is between them? Has the 5000 been discontinued?

Both are available.

063PZ5140 | GLASS PLEXI ST RING D29.62 H4.7

063PZ5000 | GLASS PLEXI ST RING D29.62 H4.3

SkunkPrince · Nov 9, 2021

0.4mm height difference. Not a lot. 😀 Thanks.

sleepyastronaut · Nov 9, 2021

@southtexas https://omegaforums.net/threads/crown-glass-gasket-list.81619

BenBagbag · Nov 10, 2021

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2945380505...sh=item4493d5fbd2:g:cGgAAOSwm5BhjEC1&LH_BIN=1

I see it hit eBay. This is a great watch with a lot of potential. You've been around long enough that you should totally sell this here!

Selling on OF cutting out sellers fees etc would make a member looking for a new watch - and you - potentially very happy.

Either way GLWS. If I was in the market for a bit of a project watch I'd consider this one. It's got a lot of charm and checks a bunch of boxes.

southtexas · Nov 10, 2021

BenBagbag
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294538050514?epid=4048409207&hash=item4493d5fbd2:g:cGgAAOSwm5BhjEC1&LH_BIN=1

I see it hit eBay. This is a great watch with a lot of potential. You've been around long enough that you should totally sell this here!

Selling on OF cutting out sellers fees etc would make a member looking for a new watch - and you - potentially very happy.

Either way GLWS. If I was in the market for a bit of a project watch I'd consider this one. It's got a lot of charm and checks a bunch of boxes.

I sold it here to an OF member. It’s shipping tomorrow. I’m excited to see how it turns out. I’m sure I’ll regret selling it, but I’m covered up at work. Thanks again to everyone for the links and advice. I’m slowly finding my way around the part numbers catalogs and am beginning to understand them (I think!).

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