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Seamaster 2846-1 SC without Seamaster text on the dial?

  1. Scaramanga74 Dec 12, 2017

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    Hi guys,

    I own a Seamaster 2846-1 SC with only Automatic written on the dial. The text Seamaster is not there and I can´t find anything that indicates a redial.

    Cal 501. Movement serial no 14858009. Approx 1955?

    What do you think? Is it a correct dial for this model?
    I would be grateful for your comments.


    Sorry for the bad pictures. It is quite difficult to get a good shot of the dial.

    A picture before a visit to the watchmaker.
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    The dial
    Seamaster (1).jpg

    Seamaster (3).JPG

    Seamaster (2).JPG
     
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  2. peatnick Dec 12, 2017

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    Welcome, had a similar black dial 2846 however with Arabic cardinal numbers and crosshair

    2846.jpg

    Had seamaster printed above 6 but otherwise quite similar

    Does yours have seamaster printed on the caseback?
     
  3. Scaramanga74 Dec 12, 2017

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    Thanks @peatnick ! Your dial looks great.

    Yepp, mine has seamaster on the caseback.
     
  4. peatnick Dec 12, 2017

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    Thanks but its not mine anymore, now in the care of @GregH !
     
  5. jimmyjay Dec 12, 2017

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    Here’s my 2846. Movement number 15,352,xxx. I think the dial is original although the hands have been replaced (minute hand is too long). I base my opinion on the lower picture showing the curved S and drop r in Seamaster on the black dialled watch on the left.

    That said. I would say if your Seamaster doesn’t have Seamaster on the dial it’s likely been refinished.

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  6. Scaramanga74 Dec 13, 2017

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    OK @jimmyjay , thanks for your input. As I wrote earlier, there is no signs of new paint on the dial. There are some small dots where the black has come off and you can see the "gold" base.

    Is it possible that my dial comes from another Omega with cal 501? Someone made a switch many years ago?
     
  7. Scaramanga74 Dec 13, 2017

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  8. habrisbane Dec 15, 2017

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    Redial
     
  9. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Dec 15, 2017

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    For what reasons?
     
  10. dan7800 Dec 15, 2017

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    For one, 9/10 when a vintage black dial looks perfect, it is a redial.
     
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  11. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Dec 15, 2017

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    The dial looks good to me (fonts, gilt text, swiss made, etc...) but perhaps the dial/movement are from another model, as I would expect a 2846 to say Seamaster on it....

    I would have to disagree with the others.
     
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  12. fjf Dec 15, 2017

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    I agree. From the pics looks like an original dial from that era. May not be the first dial that watch got at the factory, but it is correct.
     
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  13. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 15, 2017

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    If you know what you're looking for/at, it clearly has gilt printing telling me its an original dial. Perhaps not original to the watch as noted, but certainly not refinished.
     
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  14. Scaramanga74 Dec 18, 2017

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    Thanks guys, @X350 XJR , @fjf , @kyle L .

    You confirmed what I suspected, the dial belongs on another ref. Any ideas where it belongs?

    Where can i find a correct dial?
     
  15. ANALOGUE Aug 30, 2019

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    I have this one. Strange that mine also have got the exact same incorrect dial? Is consensus still that these have got the dials swaped?
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  16. airansun In the shuffling madness Aug 30, 2019

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    I’m late to the party, but I’d be curious to have those who say not redialed to look at this enlargement of OP’s dial.
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    I recognize that this is quite magnified and I am not expert enough to be sure, but that A looks like something creepy just touched one of its feet. Is this within the margin of legitimate?

    Doesn’t this look hand painted?

    Calling @kyle L , @X350 XJR , @fjf
     
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  17. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Aug 30, 2019

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    How about these? Do they look original ?

    Screenshot_20190830-154857__01.jpg Screenshot_20190830-154908__01.jpg
    ;)
     
  18. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Aug 30, 2019

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    I still say it's an original gilt dial.
     
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  19. airansun In the shuffling madness Aug 30, 2019

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    Why I asked.

    @X350 XJR : Thanks. Still trying to fathom all the varieties of 50’s and 60’s Omega dials, particularly the rare, original black dials. It’s a forest.

    @hoipolloi : if I’m honest, the letters on the dial you posted are more uniform than OP’s, I think. Neither of his Os is evenly rounded and his serifs appear to be at an angle (look at the U).

    @Foo2rama ?
     
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  20. Snickers1985 Aug 31, 2019

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    Could it have come from a pre seamaster bumper? There's a relatively small gap between the production of those and the 2846.