Seamaster 2767-1 SC information please

razor61 · Sep 20, 2023

Hi, I am a new member on this forum and need some help and advice please if possible?
I have a Seamaster Automatic 2767-1 SC which I purchased in 1978 and wore for a few years before loaning the watch to my father who wore the watch on/off for 40 years and had at least 2 'repairs' on the watch. My father is a precision engineer and, rather than have the watch looked at and repaired, he decided to machine the inside of the case back because the 'bumper' was catching the case back, this is the reason some of the lettering/stamping is missing but the reference number is still there and visible. I now have the watch back in my possession after 40 years and would like more information on the watch if anyone can provide the information please? I've searched on the internet for this model but I could only find 1 example with a gold case and the dial is slightly different (mine doesn't have the seconds markers), maybe the dial has been replaced or refurbished in the past. I'm not sure what to do with the watch, sell it as it is or have it repaired and refurbished sympathetically and wear it or have it repaired and refurbished sympathetically then sell it. Any guidance on this would be appreciated and I haven't 'messed around' with it.
The things I know are below along with some pictures:
ref 2767-1 SC
Calibre 354
SN: 13974890
Model year 1952 I think

Nepomuceño · Sep 20, 2023

Welcome. It’s a nice looking watch that looks like it has been honestly worn. Dial looks original and a black waffle dial is quite desirable.

A couple things that stand out are the lume loss on the hands and the crown is a replacement which is pretty common. I’d get it serviced if I were you. If you are interested in a service let us know your rough location and members can recommend private watchmakers.

Here is another example I found of your reference courtesy of @X350 XJR

razor61 · Sep 20, 2023

Thank you and thank you for replying with the information and advice, it's much appreciated.
I have found a vintage watch shop/repairer/watchmaker where I live in the UK and it's in the same town which is a bonus, I didn't know it existed until I searched on the good old internet. Link is below and it looks like it's the place I need to go but if anyone knows of somewhere else in the UK near where I live in Lancashire postcode BB3 please let me know.
I've arranged to take the watch to them later today after I finish work for them to have a good look and advise me on costs and what options I have.
Thanks again and I'll update this post with what happens.

Link to 'Watches of Lancashire'

https://watchesoflancashire.com/

cristos71 · Sep 20, 2023

I'd get a quote first from W. of L. first of all if I was you and share it here. If their servicing costs are as eye-wateringly high as the prices they ask for their vintage watches then you may do well to see if any of the UK members have better options for you.

For a service of this kind of calibre with no replacement parts I'd be looking to pay around the €200-250 mark, parts on top if necessary. Here's where it can get expensive as Omega don't make it easy any more for watchmakers to buy the parts.

razor61 · Sep 20, 2023

cristos71
I'd get a quote first from W. of L. first of all if I was you and share it here. If their servicing costs are as eye-wateringly high as the prices they ask for their vintage watches then you may do well to see if any of the UK members have better options for you.

For a service of this kind of calibre with no replacement parts I'd be looking to pay around the €200-250 mark, parts on top if necessary. Here's where it can get expensive as Omega don't make it easy any more for watchmakers to buy the parts.

Thanks and duly noted😉
I'll have a chat with them and get an estimate before I proceed, I suppose the main consideration is how much the watch is worth 'as it is' compared to how much after a refurb. If, for example, the watch is worth £1000 when refurbed correctly then spending £300-£500 on a refurb makes sense but we'll see what happens. I would like to use/wear the watch, if I do decide on a refurb then I'll need a strap or bracelet which I suspect won't be cheap.

cristos71 · Sep 20, 2023

The watch is not worth so much financially due to the poor dial condition, wrong crown, wrong seconds hand and lack of a service - I'd say €300 - €400 max. Fixed up with correct parts and a service it may be worth a few hundred more so perhaps € 500 - €600 top, but the dial condition will always hold it back. This reference in excellent condition with an excellent condition black dial would probably be more in the €1500 region.

razor61 · Sep 20, 2023

cristos71
The watch is not worth so much financially due to the poor dial condition, wrong crown, wrong seconds hand and lack of a service - I'd say €300 - €400 max. Fixed up with correct parts and a service it may be worth a few hundred more so perhaps € 500 - €600 top, but the dial condition will always hold it back. This reference in excellent condition with an excellent condition black dial would probably be more in the €1500 region.

Thanks, that will help with my decision.

Spruce · Sep 20, 2023

Again, a similar watch, my 2767-8, cal 354.

Yours looks as though it may need a replacement sweep second hand if the tail is actually missing.

I bought mine in 2019 and paid about 500 USD. I subsequently had it serviced in the UK and paid about £120-140 although it didn’t need any parts.

Cousins UK stock replacement steel crowns and although it may not be a perfect match it’s worth having a look. Similarly, they stock replacement seconds hands.

Dan S · Sep 20, 2023

You can still see the tick marks faintly in a few places if you look closely, they have just faded badly or been washed off in an attempt to clean the dial. That gives you a sense of the condition of the dial.

razor61 · Sep 21, 2023

Spruce
Again, a similar watch, my 2767-8, cal 354.

Yours looks as though it may need a replacement sweep second hand if the tail is actually missing.

I bought mine in 2019 and paid about 500 USD. I subsequently had it serviced in the UK and paid about £120-140 although it didn’t need any parts.

Cousins UK stock replacement steel crowns and although it may not be a perfect match it’s worth having a look. Similarly, they stock replacement seconds hands.

Thanks for all that and thanks for the telling me about Cousins UK, I'll have a look. I suspect it will need a few parts, servicing and cleaning etc.
I left it with the shop and said have a good look at it, let me know what needs doing, how much and I'll take it from there.

razor61 · Mar 9, 2024

Sorry for this very late update, been busy with projects at work and ‘family’ issues.
So I took the watch to the watch shop and estimate was £500 for service and repairs. That was late last year, can’t remember what was needed exactly, few bits like winder and tube. I said I won’t bother but it was only yesterday when I picked up the watch. The watch winds and works, can’t remember if it worked like that before or not, maybe they gave it a bit of a service. I’ve decided to get a bracelet for it, 18mm, wear it for a bit and see if it works ok and keeps time. Bought a Seamaster Professional 18mm bracelet off eBay in the UK for £15, probably not genuine but if it fits ok I can wear it then take it from there.
I looked at the prices in the UK for Seamaster calibre 354 watches and they seem to have increased in value since I looked last year.

razor61 · Apr 10, 2024

Dan S
You can still see the tick marks faintly in a few places if you look closely, they have just faded badly or been washed off in an attempt to clean the dial. That gives you a sense of the condition of the dial.

Does the dial look better now and how it should be?

cristos71 · Apr 10, 2024

I'd hardly believe that it's the same dial, it looks very good to me. The crystal must have been very dull/scratched up?

Dan S · Apr 10, 2024

I could be wrong, but the most recent photo seems to show black paint pooling around the base of the Omega logo and markers.

Dan S · Apr 10, 2024

R razor61
Dial hasn’t been re painted in any way, if that’s what you are trying to suggest so you are wrong😉

Enjoy your watch.

razor61 · Apr 10, 2024

Dan S
Enjoy your watch.

I will do thanks. I have you to thank for prompting me to send it to a specialist, Mitka, when you said ‘You can still see the tick marks faintly in a few places if you look closely’ and I thought maybe it could be rescued without any drastic work. And the complete watch has been rescued without sacrificing the original finish and detail.

razor61 · Apr 11, 2024

cristos71
I'd hardly believe that it's the same dial, it looks very good to me. The crystal must have been very dull/scratched up?

The crystal wasn’t the issue, dial was dull and it’s been brought back to life by Mitka. I couldn’t believe the transformation.

Dan S · Apr 11, 2024

Very impressive (and also courageous) job by Mitka. It can be risky to clean dials. Maybe we can get him to tell us more next time he calls into Things with Springs.

razor61 · Apr 11, 2024

Dan S
Very impressive (and courageous) job by Mitka. It can be risky to clean dials.

I'm not an expert of course but I thought it was impressive and, as you say, courageous as well. The watch wasn't worth a fortune as it was so it was worth trying to sort out the dial and it paid off I think. If it wasn't for your comments, mentioned earlier, I don't think I would have done anything with it and probably stuck it on eBay or something so thank you😀
When I get it back I'll post some pictures of the movement during servicing and the dial etc., before and after pictures, and the finished article which will tell the 'story'. I'm sure Mitka won't mind me doing this.

theluckyluke · Apr 12, 2024

Now you have the post the final picture of the complete watch too!

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