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Seamaster 166.024 1969 opinion?

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TexOmega TexOmega
Many questions from the pictures.

and you asked for opinions

if you go to sell, questions remain, and your market will be newbies with uncritical eyes.


Now, if you like it and plan to keep forever, then it is a good price.

Yeah I appreciate the opinions as I'm no expert on these at all. Always good to have different opinions and knowledge.

I like it and the plan would likely be to keep it for a long time, that's why I was asking. But I'm not sure I'd want to buy if it is a redial, which it does look like.
But I don't know how much a redial and possible polish / refinish to the case would effect the value and if its worth that sort of money. That's why I was asking, cheers
 
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If redial and polish??? subtract most of the value, 60-70%.
 
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TexOmega TexOmega
If redial and polish??? subtract most of the value, 60-70%.

I wouldn't have known it was that substantial.

Not definite it has been polished and it is a redial though, there seems to be mixed opinions on it.
 
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As collectors, we say, " what else does one see from the outside besides dial and case?"


I have no opinion whether this example has/has not a redial or polish/refurbish.
 
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I have no opinion whether this example has/has not a redial or polish/refurbish.[/QUOTE]

Why not
 
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While I am not too clued up on SM300 prices and their recent development, 60% less valuable due to a relume and polish sounds very far off what I would suspect is the case. Even if the polish isn't the most sumpathetic.

These are watches with a broad appeal and I would suggest that a large number of people looking for a vintage dive watch from a very well known brand wouldn't care one bit if it had been relumed and polished. The value of a watch like this depends on

- who's selling it
- how
- on which platform and
- who he's marketing it towards.

A halfway decent seller could easily spin the work done to its benefit and the right buyers would love it.
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
While I am not too clued up on SM300 prices and their recent development, 60% less valuable due to a relume and polish sounds very far off what I would suspect is the case. Even if the polish isn't the most sumpathetic.

These are watches with a broad appeal and I would suggest that a large number of people looking for a vintage dive watch from a very well known brand wouldn't care one bit if it had been relumed and polished. The value of a watch like this depends on

- who's selling it
- how
- on which platform and
- who he's marketing it towards.

A halfway decent seller could easily spin the work done to its benefit and the right buyers would love it.

It was on ebay and I don't know the person. It was very original from what he advised. Most of the details stated are above. It's a calibre 565 movement serial number in the 30 millions I believe dating it to 1969.

Unfortunately don't know much else
 
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This isn't a redial, and while the case sides might have been "refinished" the case at least doesn't look awful. It has an original dial and bezel in a market where there are more and more fakes around - I'm not a buyer at £4k but I don't see any alternatives at the same price point. I'd normally say let the market decide its value, but it looks like it already did and that's what the seller is asking, which seems fair to me.
 
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speedamatuer speedamatuer
This isn't a redial, and while the case sides might have been "refinished" the case at least doesn't look awful. It has an original dial and bezel in a market where there are more and more fakes around - I'm not a buyer at £4k but I don't see any alternatives at the same price point. I'd normally say let the market decide its value, but it looks like it already did and that's what the seller is asking, which seems fair to me.

Out of curiosity why do you not think it's a redial?, do you thinks it's had a relume done?. As you can see above there are quite few mixed opinions on it

Cheers
 
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I would be very carefully with the term „relumed“ due to the fact that there are people who are doing very decent reluming nowadays. So often old tritium (as old stocks by watchmakers or crumbled from old watches) is used to relume a watch and the differences are hard to see.

When it’s not too obvious (sloppy applied for eg) you just can’t tell just from some (sorry) crappy pics.

I’ve established one rule for myself: if it’s questionable, skip it. Otherwise you will ever (!) think about it, when you are looking on the dial of the watch which you’ve spend 4 grand for.
 
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@Concer absolutely: and you will always look at (dial) the dubious parts of the watch, that make you doubt....
 
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Passover Passover
I don't think so, look at the different done lines here:

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That's no Omega standard


Minty sides and the caseback doesn't match at all
Voilà:
SM 300 Schliff1.jpg SM 300 Schliff3.jpg SM 300 Schliff5.jpg SM 300 Schliff8a.jpg SM 300 Schliff9.jpg SM 300 Schliff15.jpg
 
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When I look at that worn, scratched, dented and split bezel it makes me think that the case sides have definately been refinished. The dial lume also gives me cause for concern, both in the colour and finish, so if I was in the market I'd be pricing it as relumed, no matter what a seller was to tell me.
 
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Looks like a lug tip hole was repaired by filling it with liquid metal

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Don’t like the dial lume at all.
Holes are too big, lume looks off.
That would make it a hard pass from me.
 
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