Seamaster 165.014

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bikehomero

·Feb 5, 2023

Hi friends,

looking all the time for a birthyear 1963 watch. Now got offered a Seamaster 165.014 without certificate but a serial# starting at 203...Do you think it is really a 63 or is it a 64? The bezel is a spare and I have doubts about the second hand. Price is at the lower side. What do you think about this watch?

 

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BlackTalon

·Feb 5, 2023·This Space for Rent

better pics would help.

 

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SC1

·Feb 5, 2023

bikehomero

Hi friends,

looking all the time for a birthyear 1963 watch. Now got offered a Seamaster 165.014 without certificate but a serial# starting at 203...Do you think it is really a 63 or is it a 64? The bezel is a spare and I have doubts about the second hand. Price is at the lower side. What do you think about this watch?

I cannot help with this whatsoever but I did stop in to say, 1963 -- I approve, same year of birth here too.
Following.

 

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WLW62

·Feb 5, 2023

Here’s one in the sales forum for comparison.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...-head-and-bracelet.143671/page-2#post-2119914

 

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bikehomero

·Feb 5, 2023

WLW62

Here’s one in the sales forum for comparison.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...-head-and-bracelet.143671/page-2#post-2119914

THX, nice example with original bezel at a reasonalble price, but nut in europe. Try to get better fotos.

 

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bikehomero

·Feb 5, 2023

To more from the polished sides:

 

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bikehomero

·Feb 6, 2023

Here now a foto of the dail taken by his watchmaker:

 

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bikehomero

·Feb 6, 2023

He sent me the other fotos with higher resolution now. I try to explain what I want to see.

 

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jaegodylan

·Feb 7, 2023

Looks nice and honest to me.. certainly worth considering at the right price.

 

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Passover

·Feb 7, 2023

Looking at the dial: the ereas around the hour indices look to me like the dial has been relumed

Pinholes at 6 and 12 on a -63?

 

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jaegodylan

·Feb 7, 2023

Hard to tell much from that photo but mine has pinholes too.

 

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bikehomero

·Feb 7, 2023

THX! Yes I think as well it is relumed. The color is way too nice and there is abrasion visible arround the indices.

We have to work with the fotos given by the seller...me too. What would be a fair price for both sides?

 

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bikehomero

·Feb 7, 2023

Here a larger foto from today. The dial appears to be ruined.

 

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jaegodylan

·Feb 8, 2023

Again you cant see much from that photo.. certainly doesn’t appear ruined.

 

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ndgal

·Feb 8, 2023

20.3 serial is early 1964.
The bezel is not original. Looks like an aftermarket metal insert.
Sweep hand not original.
Dial lume cannot be determined based on these pictures.

Here's a perfect one from the same serial range for comparison.

 

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bikehomero

·Feb 12, 2023

Thank you all for your great help! Havn't bought this watch an look further.

@ndgal: special thx for the info about #203.... Do you think all 203 are made in 64, so I need to have a look to max serial# 202?

Edited: Feb 12, 2023