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OHPF Seamaster 165.014-63 Original Bezel £7150

  1. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Apr 23, 2022

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    I bought this many years ago while living in Hong Kong and I met a well known collector who was selling most of his collection. I bought some speedmasters from him, and at the time he pressed me to buy this Seamaster as he told me it was very rare as the bezel is original. He also told me he had had it for many years, and had never worked on it.

    I am selling as it is outside my collecting criteria.

    It looks to me like the bezel is original, and also the whole watch has a wonderful patina, and looks nothing like the rubbish that I found on C24 when researching this.

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    I am no expert in these watches, but from what I have learned, I think my friend is correct about the bezel. Not damage free, but original.

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    I have tried to compare this, but there are none on the market with the original bezel. So I have added a small percentage on my cost and offer it here.

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    To my knowledge, this watch has not been serviced in at least 20 years - I recommend servicing it. There is also some very minor debris under the glass, which would be best removed. So I am selling this (rather wonderful) watch as is.

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    Watch is in UK and can be in the USA after 7 - 14th May.

    Price is £7850 - Cash face to face, Bitcoin or Wire transfer to my Hong Kong Bank Account.

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  2. JwRosenthal Apr 23, 2022

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    I’m not sure which is rarer, the watch or one being sold by the seller.
     
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  3. perenowell Apr 24, 2022

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    ::love::
     
  4. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Apr 24, 2022

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    I have been asked to investigate the Geiger / radiation readings. As you can see I have a cheap meter, and I set a speedmaster to time from two minutes after turning the meter on to settle at background radiation levels.

    Here it is just turned on, and I waited a few minutes and took this picture. Background reading after two minutes:
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    Immediately after placing on the Seamaster:

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    After 3 mins

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    4mins;

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    Here is the highest:

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    Seamaster removed:

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    So yes, it reacts to the Geiger
     
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  5. jaguar11 Apr 24, 2022

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    How nice!!
     
  6. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Apr 26, 2022

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    Some brighter photos.

    The crystal appears very old, and all the white marks are crazing or dust. I have not opened this watch, apart from the movement photos.

    I cannot remember seeing one with an original bezel in this good a condition.

    I have even booked a slot at Simon Freese Watchmakers should you want it serviced fast (and well of course!)





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  7. keepsonticking Apr 28, 2022

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    So, did I miss the mention of the sweep seconds hand being fairly new, by comparison? Is it the correct style? Great watch, by the way.
     
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  8. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Apr 29, 2022

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    Thanks. As to the hand, the only image I can find is this, sold by Romain Rea two years ago:

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    I will keep looking....
     
  9. Dr.Sascha Apr 29, 2022

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    Man oh man, what a watch! :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Sa Calobra Apr 29, 2022

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  11. Sa Calobra Apr 29, 2022

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    Stunning watch by the way- those colours and the fact that bezel is in tact..
     
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  12. perenowell Apr 29, 2022

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    The gilt dial... ::love::

    too bad I don't have the funds right now...
     
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  13. calalum Apr 29, 2022

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    Another for comparison...

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  14. Paedipod Apr 30, 2022

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    and another.........William's is way nicer! IMG_2770.jpeg
     
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  15. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder May 5, 2022

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    Back on sale - buyer showed up, and bought a different watch from me !
    Yes a speedmaster.
    Watch will be in USA next week if that helps
     
  16. cristos71 May 5, 2022

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    This is why with a F2F I always first 'conclude business' before opening the watch roll and revealing the other available's inside!

    GLWTS :)
     
  17. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder May 24, 2022

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    1-2022-05-24 12-09-53 (C,Smoothing4).jpg This is by far the cheapest one I can see, and hopefully we can find a good home for it - note the original bezel.

    UK Sale, or USA. Europe is tough, its better for you to take a day trip from Europe

    Only selling as its not a speedmaster. Trying to clean up the collection!
     
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  18. lexieb007 Jun 28, 2022

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    Heck Spacefruit is this radium or tritium on the dial and hands? Thanks
     
  19. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Jun 28, 2022

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    So the dial has one T mark, in a different paint
    As the watch is going abroad I decided to service it and have Simon Freese take Geiger readings.
    Haven’t got photos, but here is the sum of research.

    1. The watch before disassembly shows strong Radium reaction through the crystal
    2. Loose, the dial shows slight elevated levels
    3. Loose, the Hands show elevated levels.
    4. The empty case shows no elevated levels
    5. The hands when enclosed in case show higher levels

    my conclusion, as an amateur is that the hands are radium and the dial is tritium, marked after regulations changed, OR the dial is radium and it was marked in error.

    interesting that the readings increased under glass, but it could also be that Simon was using my Geiger counter and he is not familiar with it. I have found it crucial where to place the item to get the reading.
     
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  20. lexieb007 Jun 28, 2022

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    Crazy stuff a radium/tritium "transitional" seamaster?!