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Scratched case back Omega Speedmaster 321 concerns..

  1. Francis_Assisi Nov 12, 2015

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    G'day everyone!

    Does a scratched case back the Omega Speedmaster 321 damage the watches desirability by a lot? I know the dial is important and bezel, case etc... Just asking because there are many examples where people have tried to open up the movement whilst scratching the case. Is it better to go for the better examples without the scratches and dents?
     
  2. abrod520 Nov 12, 2015

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    How scratched are we talking? Do you have photos?

    I'd think the value would be most affected if the Seahorse emblem were substantially damaged, but otherwise it might not be such a big deal.
     
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  3. italy1861 Nov 12, 2015

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    If it bugs you, pick-up a Preik exhibition back and forget about it. :thumbsup:
     
  4. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Nov 12, 2015

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    If the rest of the watch (including the rest of the case) is original and in great shape I think the back condition is almost irrelevant to the price unless it looked totally shredded.
     
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  5. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Nov 12, 2015

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    Yes, it is better to go for examples without scratches and dents. If the only scratch appears to be from a tool slipping with the tool (see what I did there? ;) ), and everything else is okey dokey, I would accept the tool scratch.
    One of our resident members frequently has Speedmasters for sale. It seems most of the c.321 flavors have this type of scratch, so it must be a common occurrence.
     
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  6. marturx Nov 12, 2015

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    If the front looks like this:

    SM300, wrist.jpg

    IMO it doesn´t matter if the back looks like this:

    165.024-64, back daylight.jpg

    But of course you will use the damaged back to get a price reduction.

    I can see an advantage in an already damaged watch, as you can wear it a as a daily beater, and not feel that you ought to let it sit in the vault, so that it doesn´t get damaged!
     
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  7. rogart ray it again, Ram. Nov 13, 2015

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    WTF:eek: .Has the previous owner used a chisel and hammer to remove the caseback?::facepalm2::
     
  8. mozambique Nov 13, 2015

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    Ooooh an isolated "oh shit!" scratch is one thing, that looks like the side of my car (got keyed again last night).
     
  9. base615 Nov 13, 2015

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    Pretty typical scissor damage
     
  10. Francis_Assisi Nov 14, 2015

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    Nice watch!
     
  11. Francis_Assisi Nov 14, 2015

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    Suppose its better to go with one without the scratches. The 321 I'm looking at had a fantastic "look" about it. Nice dial, lume case... The only 'fault' are those scratches and dents, but the seahorse is still good and nice to look at. Does an original bracelet to the watch make a huge difference or just any 1039 bracelet ok?
     
  12. Interstatetime Nov 14, 2015

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    Of course it matters. Every scratch matters to the value of a watch when you try to sell it. Every prospective buyer you show it to will bring up the scratch...just like you are bringing it up now. If you plan to keep it and it looks good when you are wearing it then simply take the scratch into account as much as it matters to you when determining a value. Don't ever let anyone tell you a scratch doesn't matter.

    JohnCote
     
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  13. rogart ray it again, Ram. Nov 14, 2015

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    Love the bezel .
     
  14. mozambique Nov 14, 2015

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    For top resale dollar you would want a 1039 0 to 2 yrs younger than the watch (general observations from vintage speediest).
     
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  15. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Nov 14, 2015

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    If at first you don't succeed, try try again!
     
  16. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Nov 14, 2015

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    And again...
     
  17. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Nov 14, 2015

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    Agreed this would be the formula for passing the bracelet off as original to the watch. Bracelets were added to the watch after the watch was assembled.
    But I don't think it makes much difference in the value? The bracelet itself has value. A 105.012-65 head with a bracelet dated 1969 wouldn't be valued much less than one with a bracelet dated 1966 or 1967, from what I have seen.