Well, before I discovered this forum, my first omega purchase turned out to be a redial. Looked pretty nice, but the Omega logo not being 100% centered under the "12" marking had always bothered me. Fast forward a year and am looking at my 4th omega and the stakes are raised, so I really don't want to make a similar or worse mistake. Behold this 321 that I've been eyeing. The seller says everything is original, but has other listings that are 100% redials. Issues I noticed: Crown seems to be the wrong finish (just worn out?) Serial number seems to have too many digits for the era. Photoshopped? Logo on claimed original buckle looks like a bad knock-off. Caseback looks like it's a well used watch, crystal looks quite new. Can't tell if its signed.
The serial number has the right number of digits. That's approx. 1966, which I think is fine for the watch. I will let others better versed in those dials speak to it.
I don't know the reference incredibly well so wait for those who do to come along. However, look at the minute track and plots - particularly around the 10 and 11 - and you'll see they don't line up with the indices. That would indicate a redial, but could also be the dial furniture hase been replaced. Serial number is approx right - you'll have to look it up to confirm but ilovemyspeedmaster (or whatever it is) will give you a good estimate on this movement. Crown's later (post 68) and hands seem to be replaced.
For the buckle you'll have to see the inner side to see hallmarks to check if it's legit vintage. Use this excellent guide- https://omegaforums.net/threads/about-omega-buckles.37347/
might be the angle. A better picture looking straight on th dial is needed. However, fonts seem to be correct. Why do you think so?
Yes - the fonts seem really good which is why I ummed and ahhed about calling it. The differences could be distortions in the glass and photos from other angles will settle it. Because they're achingly good and there's a colour difference in the loom. Not saying they're wrong, just newer than the rest.
The font on the dial is really good especially with the open 6s and 9s on the tachymeter scale which is correct. As for the the hands and lume, a full frontal shot with even lighting will allow us to determine the colours more accurately, though im pretty sure sword hands are correct. [QUOTE Caseback looks like it's a well used watch, crystal looks quite new. Can't tell if its signed.[/QUOTE] The originality of the crystal is the least of your concern as the case condition and crown isnt ideal.
Closest to a straight on pic I can get at the moment. The 10 and 11 markers do look a little further off than in the other example uploaded to this thread. The originality of the crystal is the least of your concern as the case condition and crown isnt ideal.[/QUOTE]
Also some hour markers are closer to the track then others (lume dots touch small hash marks on some, and are far away at others) I am definitely not an expert, but it seems at a minimum the hour indices were possibly reinstalled and relumed. All-in-all, enough going on here that it would not be worth more then the 321 movement to me personally.
Agree, without being able to inspect the watch, I would not buy it. Would you mind telling the asking price, @auxpomme ?
What’d we all think? $2400? Anyhoo on another note, can I post a WTB thread? Need to get to 200 posts. Lmk what you think the best way to proceed might be. Edited. Not trying to be shady
The 'correct' way of doing it is to complete 200 posts so you can open a WTB thread. The improper way is to put your WTB thread in a thread outside the Private Watch Sale subforum. It can be effective, though.
How good a quality are you looking for? I might have one locally i can source. It’s gold filled but has worn through on the lugs a bit. Dial and movement are good. I can put you in touch with the shop that has it.