Save me.... a Geneve fool

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Diddy

·Nov 25, 2022

Hi all, I'm new on here and a relative watch novice.
On here, you certainly seem to know your stuff! Please save a newbie from being a fool.
I'm looking for a 1961 to celebrate an anniversary and I spotted this one

It seems OK but from the limited amount of research that I can do, I CANNOT find another 'cursive' Geneve with 3, 6, 9 and 12 numerals. Seamasters, yes.
I do like this watch, but I won't buy it if it's what you call 'Franken'.
Your knowledge and experience would be much appreciated.

 

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Dan S

·Nov 25, 2022

I'm not an expert on Geneves, but at first glance it looks nice. There are many dial variations and you won't necessarily find photos of every one on the web. I wonder what is engraved on the back of the lug.

 

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Tony C.

·Nov 25, 2022·Ωf Jury member

Dan S

I wonder what is engraved on the back of the lug

Likely a date of service by an idiotic watchmaker.

 

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TexOmega

·Nov 25, 2022

D Diddy

Hi all, I'm new on here and a relative watch novice.
On here, you certainly seem to know your stuff! Please save a newbie from being a fool.
I'm looking for a 1961 to celebrate an anniversary and I spotted this one

It seems OK but from the limited amount of research that I can do, I CANNOT find another 'cursive' Geneve with 3, 6, 9 and 12 numerals. Seamasters, yes.
I do like this watch, but I won't buy it if it's what you call 'Franken'.
Your knowledge and experience would be much appreciated.

"certainly seem" are fightin' words..........we are ALL KNOWING😁


Welcome, doesn't "seem" to be a Franken👍

 

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BarbVl

·Nov 25, 2022

Very nice watch. Usually when i want to check if a watch is "franken" i google after the reference number from inside the case back to check for similar models.

 

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Diddy

·Nov 25, 2022

Tony C.

Likely a date of service by an idiotic watchmaker.

I think that you're right and, unfortunately, there's similar near the crown. Dumb or what?

 

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Diddy

·Nov 25, 2022

TexOmega

"certainly seem" are fightin' words..........we are ALL KNOWING😁


Welcome, doesn't "seem" to be a Franken👍

I bow to you o mighty, all knowing ones 😁 Take that with as large a pinch of salt as you fancy 😀
I am grateful for your input though.

 

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kaplan

·Nov 25, 2022

Sometimes there are symbolic numbers too, I have a watch with 4 different numbers on 4 different lugs, same font, I have no idea what they represent

 

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X350 XJR

·Nov 25, 2022·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Can you provide inside and outside case back photos?

 

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KLXN

·Nov 25, 2022

@Diddy if you can't find examples of exactly the same dial configuration at least try to compare printing to dials with different indices. Compare the font of "Omega", "Geneve" and "Swiss Made".

To me it looks ok, maybe one concern is 30min marker. It's either curvature of the glass or it's shorter than other indices. If it is shorter it's kind of red flag

 

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Diddy

·Nov 26, 2022

KLXN

@Diddy if you can't find examples of exactly the same dial configuration at least try to compare printing to dials with different indices. Compare the font of "Omega", "Geneve" and "Swiss Made".

To me it looks ok, maybe one concern is 30min marker. It's either curvature of the glass or it's shorter than other indices. If it is shorter it's kind of red flag

I've seen another photo and the 30min marker is short and stubby but so are the other 'quarter' markers, it's consistent. I'm not saying it's right, but it is the same.

 

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Diddy

·Nov 26, 2022

X350 XJR

Can you provide inside and outside case back photos?

 

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padders

·Nov 26, 2022·Oooo subtitles!

Ok so it is UK made 9K gold Shackman case. That is a shame as we wont be able to search on the model number for comparisons. When I first saw this something didn't look right to me, usually for instance in this era they used applied metal Omega text and the printed one jarred at first, but looking at it logically I think it is just that I have never seen that exact centre second variant with Arab quarter numbers before. It is probably straight, but its certainly not common. Anecdotal evidence suggests full and part arabic number dials are more commonly seen in the UK market, particularly in Dennion and Shackman cased models. It seems there was a preference here for numbers.

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