Interesting offering from Israeli franken-meister k-watches http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-dial-and-hands-Zenith-S-58-manual-winding-swiss-watch-/251304470519Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network Can't say I've every seen an S.58 service dial. And I haven't ever seen an S.58 dial with gold dial furniture, service or otherwise. Looks like someone has got pretty authentic-looking Zenith printing dies though....
Huh. Well, those hands ain't right. And that dial is strangely lume-free. Maybe this was from the non-diving model aimed at "chemists and engineers."
While some skepticism is certainly warranted, I'd be inclined to consult Occam's razor. Why on earth would someone go to the trouble of faking a dial for such an uncommon watch? And find hands that (presumably) suit the dial? There's no reason to go to the trouble of faking a dial unless there is money to be made, and the market is so much bigger for other makes and models, it just doesn't make sense. The only alternative explanation would be that the dial is original and correct, except for the S.58 that was added to increase its value. My guess is that it is a correct dial, and that, much like the JLC Geophysic and IWC Ingenieur, there were a small number of dress versions of the S.58 made.
would someone explain to me why people love G-Shocks? over on WUS there are whole forums dedicated to them?
True, but... a) was that dial style used for other than S.58 models? b) it would be a much more efficient money-making venture to reproduce and sell many less expensive dials, than a small handful of these.
I'm entirely in agreement with that principle, and I like the elegant solution, but... those unlumed, dauphine hour and minute hands and that linear sweep second hand have nothing to do with any S.58 I've ever seen, and I don't see how they match the dial, so I don't think anyone went to a lot of trouble there. The fonts, block hour markers, hour numerals and minute hash marks are indeed perfectly done, but what about the absence of lume? Maybe a factory replacement or unfinished, overstock blank, ready to lume? I suppose there are stranger things. Certainly not a dial from any finished S.58. I suspect someone did a pretty nice artistic exercise with some near-worthless parts and tried to turn them into $500.
I might buy it. (The idea that is, not the dial. Though I did actually press "Buy it Now" by accident while examining the damned thing, and I then VERY carefully hit "Cancel" instead of "Confirm." ). But those hands are junk.
Beware the iPhone and eBay, by the way. Heck, I could have bought two Austin Healy Sprites for the price of that dial.
Who doesn't love an old thread revival? I'd like to offer up three examples dug up with similar dials, although lumed, since this topic was debated. #1 - Case: 9436152 / Movement: 4841522 (cal. 120) #2 - Case: 9461720 / Movement: 4916651 (cal. 120) #3 - Case: NA / Movement: 4925970 (cal. 120)
The link doesn’t/didn’t work but here’s another dial for sale. May be the same one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zenith-S58-Dial-NOS-unused-w-free-hand-set-note-explanation-below/143105151608?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=4aca80b63a8e42d89a6aeaf491154a8d&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&sd=143105151608&itm=143105151608&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:663285a9-00bc-11ea-ac54-74dbd1802544|parentrq:41ccde3516e0aadcc78f10e7fff25410|iid:1Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network