After I was too slow for Matts glossydial The 5513 should be a later with glossy dial ( open 6 models preferred ) unless the price for a matte is not overcompetitive. 16800 cleary only with a matte dial, keep 'em coming!
They become harder & harder to find with attractive lume AND at a reasonable price! I missed a birth year occasion 4/5 years ago, still regret it today Great find Ralf