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  1. WYO_Watch Jan 25, 2017

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    I just purchased a vintage seamaster on eBay. The only thing that really helps me date it was the original rice band (but unfortunately it was far too small for my wrist). As shown in the photos it has a cross hair dial and what people may call "two tone" because it is lifted? Or maybe they call it a "waffle?" Ebay has not been much for educating me haha so thanks for the forum. Anyway, I am not sure how to open it. Someone else has clearly attempted and failed based on the scratches on the back. It appears that the back is in the wrong position based on the flat edge being opposite of the crown? Any information on how to open this watch or on the watch would be great. I really want to know what movement I now own. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  2. Gordon Heavyfoot Jan 25, 2017

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    Nice dial. Unfortunate about the back. I'd take it to see this guy...
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  3. ajg1960 Jan 25, 2017

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    you probably should take it to a professional watchmaker to open, but if you want to try, I guess you cant scratch it up too much more. You need a case knife. its a thin blade on a handle that fits between the back and case --in the area of that flat spot-- and you can pop the back off. Look on Amazon.
     
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  4. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jan 25, 2017

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    I would call it two tone, but not waffled. It looks like a reference 2828 caliber 471. I would take it to a watch maker to open it up. Have them do a service and see if they can locate some extra beads of rice links for your bracelet. Enjoy your nice Seamaster!
     
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  5. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Jan 25, 2017

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    Make sure it's not this guy at the mall

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  6. DON Jan 25, 2017

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    You need to look for a thin gap opening between the case back and center case. It would be cut into the back

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  7. WYO_Watch Jan 25, 2017

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    Thanks for the information. I will look some watches up and a repair shop (there are far and few between out here). I have seen plenty of screw backs and seamsters with logos but this back just has the words "seamaster" and "water proof" on it. I loved the cross hair dial, which is why I bought the watch. The bracelet was just a bonus!
     
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  8. GuiltyBoomerang Jan 25, 2017

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    Don't get a case knife like the ones on Amazon - the blade tends to be to thick and you can do some real damage. A sharp pocket knife (i.e Victorinox) will usually be thin enough to slip in the edge. If in doubt, slip some clear plastic over the area you're opening so you won't scratch the back.

    If you want something even thinner, you can use the blade from a safety knife/razor.

    Just read that you will be taking it to a watchmaker, and that is by far the most ideal solution :) If you need recommendations for watch repairs, let us know where you're from and I'm sure some local forum members will be able to recommend a watchmaker for you.
     
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  9. pitpro Likes the game. Jan 25, 2017

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    Ok, I'll ask-
    Why do you want to open it?
    If it's not running, then the watchmaker that will service
    it will open it. If it is running, but not how you would like,
    then you really don't know how to address that anyway,
    so why risk messing up the watch case?
    If you just like to tinker, well go watch some youtube
    videos how to open.
    Looks like a nice original Seamaster.
     
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  10. WYO_Watch Jan 25, 2017

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    I want to open it because inside tells almost the entire story about the watch. Sure, I know it's a seamaster - but I would love to know what movement powers it, the serial number, the date it was made, etc. It is running and keeping great time, I just want to know more about it. I will save my tinkering to cheaper watches at this point.
     
  11. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jan 25, 2017

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  13. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 25, 2017

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    ^ This, real watchmakers don't re-sole shoes, cut keys, program garage door openers and engrave dog collars as a side business to watchmaking. Mister Minit (or whatever your country's equivalent of him is) is not a watchmaker.
     
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  14. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jan 25, 2017

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    I like crosshair dials with patina too. That style case back is common in the '50's.
    Here is my 2828 471 with that style case back: image.jpeg
    Here is also one of my 2846/2848's 501's with that style case back: image.jpeg
    The watchmaker may also have a Victornox.;) Ask them image.jpeg
     
  15. pitpro Likes the game. Jan 25, 2017

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    What is the diameter of the case without the crown?
    32mm or 34mm ?
     
  16. WYO_Watch Jan 25, 2017

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    Guessing 34mm but I am getting slightly less.
     
  17. pitpro Likes the game. Jan 25, 2017

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    Ok. Well then that would make me guess this is a
    Ref, 2846 and caliber 501 Which is one of the best
    Omega made back then. It's full rotor auto.
    Many Omega collectors, think this caliber is as good as
    it gets in vintage Omega. Congrats. You should be able to
    regulate this watch to within a few seconds per day, even after
    60 years
     
  18. pitpro Likes the game. Jan 25, 2017

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    Crown is wrong BTW but readily availible with
    some patient searching. The rest looks good.
    Reasonable cost for service without parts would
    be ~$175.
     
  19. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Jan 25, 2017

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    Getting it off may be the easy part.

    Sometimes getting the it back on may be more difficult...
     
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  20. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jan 26, 2017

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    Never twist (turn) the blade - the blade acts only as a wedge if you are doing it correctly...