Request for Advice - Authenticity of Omega Constellation 168.004/14 (18K Gold)

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Good day,

I’m new to the watch world and was recently redirected here in my search for advice regarding an Omega Constellation 168.004/14 (18K gold) that I’m considering purchasing.

I have a few concerns about the dial’s authenticity. Specifically, the “Swiss Made” marking is missing, and the “Constellation” font seems slightly off. I’ve seen other examples with a similar font, and I’ve read that some vintage models may legitimately lack the “Swiss Made” text - but I’d appreciate your expert insight.

I would pay total €3,100 on Catawiki and it comes with its original box, documentation, insured shipping, and delivery. Would this be a fair price if the dial is indeed legit?

Since this would be my first watch purchase, I want to make sure I’m making an informed decision. Based on your experience and knowledge, does this listing seem legitimate to you?

Looking forward to your thoughts - thank you in advance for your help.

 
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You are correct about Swiss Made and Constellation. I think it is a redial.
The price is too high for a 18k hidden crown with dome dial in that condition.
Wait for a better one.
Hoi.

One like this sold for $3,300 usd not too long ago.

 
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welcome @John_rbn

You did the right thing coming to OF for advice before buying.

Firstly, whilst the watch is 18k and has the unusual 'brutalist' indices, the dial looks gold coloured rather than solid gold of the deluxe version (the deluxe version reference is 168.014)
If it is gold they have painted it to look like a painted dial.

The watch you show has definitely been redialled - the immediate and easy to recognise tell is the straight-legged 'n' at the end of constellation.
This 'n' should always be curled on this reference.

Also the case has been very heavily polished, front and back.
The crown is a replacement.
The box is interesting to have but Constellations originally came in their own special box - and this is not one of them.
There are multiple confusing errors in their listing - which is slightly worrying. (movt calibre, jewel count, even strap width)
The paperwork is for an Omega service, not the original watch papers and if the 'Rep-Nr.' is the movt serial, it doesn't match the watch movt.

Edit: if the paperwork does match the watch, then Omega have referred to the watch as a 168.004 not a 168.014

For future reference, the lugs should look like the ones Hoi showed in the deluxe example he posted, with definite facets,


Gold prices are mad at the minute but once they have settled down, even in mint condition this reference should be around the €3,000 mark.

Hope that helps.
 
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Serial is a low serial but that flat n on Constellations came later on with 3** serials - so if it's not a redial, it could be a service dial, it did seem like it could be an original dial to me but Omega made a change to every dial they remade and early 1970's had these flat n's - from my observation mainly on C-Case's not this model
 
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Serial is a low serial but that flat n on Constellations came later on with 3** serials - so if it's not a redial, it could be a service dial, it did seem like it could be an original dial to me but Omega made a change to every dial they remade and early 1970's had these flat n's - from my observation mainly on C-Case's not this model

The last 168.004s were produced in '67 the last of which were the uncommon cross-over cal 564s - but they were just using up cases while they got on and sold the intended replacement reference 168.010s.
This one is likely a '66 watch.
In either case, they couldn't have (and never did have) straight 'n's on their original dials. (neither did the 168.010s)

I'm think I'm on solid ground in saying that Omega would not have produced a replacement service dial for this special dial (which is early for this brutalist style and uncommon in the first place on .004s).

Plus the font is too plain and the minute haches are too short.

If this isn't a repainted dial then I think I would be quite happy to hand in my Constellation collector's badge.

(Of course Omega may have been asked to redial the watch - as it was a special and uncommon dial - when they serviced it in 2004)
 
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Here’s a good example of my 168.004. This is a 1966 with a steel case.
 
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The last 168.004s were produced in '67 the last of which were the uncommon cross-over cal 564s - but they were just using up cases while they got on and sold the intended replacement reference 168.010s.
This one is likely a '66 watch.
In either case, they couldn't have (and never did have) straight 'n's on their original dials. (neither did the 168.010s)

I'm think I'm on solid ground in saying that Omega would not have produced a replacement service dial for this special dial (which is early for this brutalist style and uncommon in the first place on .004s).

Plus the font is too plain and the minute haches are too short.

If this isn't a repainted dial then I think I would be quite happy to hand in my Constellation collector's badge.

(Of course Omega may have been asked to redial the watch - as it was a special and uncommon dial - when they serviced it in 2004)

Yeah I agree, very unlikely that those short ticks are original, the 3’o clock thicker tick is very abnormally thick too

I also saw this is a Catawiki watch, so pretty safe to assume the absolute worst 😁
 
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Thanks a lot everyone for the replies. I will stay far away from Catawiki from now on and hopefully with a bit of patience, will find my dream time piece via the forum!
 
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John welcome aboard.

The 168.004 is my favourite Omega, and revered by many within the forum. So clearly you have great taste and will do well here. Sharing my steel-cased connie for reference - not to spruik (well maybe a tad), but to highlight that patience is key. I can’t recommend more highly that you keep an eye out on this forum: https://omegaforums.net/threads/rec...-watches-only-on-ebay-not-for-inquiries.1790/

After all, I purchased this watch having been recommended in this thread! Happy hunting.