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Very interesting dialog today, gents. My own 46374B is from 1977, which I believe was the first year of issue for the B variant. The movement looks exactly like @Scarecrow Boat's above. I checked my journal and I paid $175 for it 10 years ago. Upper row, center, in this pic:




Upper row, L to R, MIL-W-46374A (Australian issue), MIL-W-46374B, MIL-W-46374D
Bottom row: L to R, GG-W-113 thin font, GG-W-113 fat font.
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This is calling me,



…see above. Not sure of sizing.


The Ebel is a 32 or so size.

This is a good quick reference for the ATP watches:
http://www.bobsy.name/ATPs/Main.html

Yes, they do tend to look a bit small but they do have a lot of character. See my Lemania, also a very similar 31-32 ish, and versus the Smiths and Timor (35 ish) for comparison.

I am on the lookout for a GG-W-113 1976 in decent nick.



 
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Very interesting dialog today, gents. My own 46374B is from 1977, which I believe was the first year of issue for the B variant. The movement looks exactly like @Scarecrow Boat's above. I checked my journal and I paid $175 for it 10 years ago. Upper row, center, in this pic:




Upper row, L to R, MIL-W-46374A (Australian issue), MIL-W-46374B, MIL-W-46374D
Bottom row: L to R, GG-W-113 thin font, GG-W-113 fat font.
Thanks for posting this Myron. I know you have a thing for these, and the LLbean civilian variants which are indeed the same watch, just branded for LLbean.
 
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The Ebel is a 32 or so size.

This is a good quick reference for the ATP watches:
http://www.bobsy.name/ATPs/Main.html

Yes, they do tend to look a bit small but they do have a lot of character. See my Lemania, also a very similar 31-32 ish, and versus the Smiths and Timor (35 ish) for comparison.

I am on the lookout for a GG-W-113 1976 in decent nick.



Dibs on your smiths (if I am in a position to afford it if that time ever came) and the chrono next to it. One of the Hamilton RAF chronos just closed on eBay for $1.6k- I was shocked. I was watching it but didn’t even think it would have sold that reasonably. Had I known, I would have bought it and figured out how to pay for it after.
 
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Dibs on your smiths (if I am in a position to afford it if that time ever came) and the chrono next to it. One of the Hamilton RAF chronos just closed on eBay for $1.6k- I was shocked. I was watching it but didn’t even think it would have sold that reasonably. Had I known, I would have bought it and figured out how to pay for it after.

I got that '72 Hamilton sterile dial chrono here in Japan, was probably about $1400 and there was little interest locally here but I couldn't resist knowing that internationally there would probably a lot more interest. It has a bit of lume damage on one of the hands, and the top pusher has been replaced but to me for a military watch like this I can forgive it - had been serviced and runs like a train.

The Smiths - I am a Smith myself so I don't think I will ever part from that one!
 
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Ok guys- 1981, H3 dial, nice shape. If you find one, send the link to Alex. If you have one and don’t have any sentimental (birthyear) attachment, send it to Alex and he will find you another in comparable shape with a different year.
Haha great idea 👍 maybe I should by the one from 1978 to have it available for trades 😁
 
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A birthyear trade among members would be fun (watch conditions being equal of course). My birthyear is ‘72, so I am in the Benrus era.
I checked my compassed Hamilton and its ‘83.
 
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By coincidence I'm wearing a Smiths military watch today. It's a lovely watch to own, especially if you're ''Made In England'.
 
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A completely original design by Bulova circa 1969- unlike any watch that has ever been made, truly unique!

Ok, got that out- Bulova’s answer to the DJ- 37mm (seller says 36 but they are 37) 333 Oceanographer in stainless case with 10k gold fluted bezel. These are usually a mess, lume is normally ashy and black, dials are typically water damaged- this is almost an anomoly. I own this watch in black dial and it is a total F-you to Rolex, which is what makes these so sweet. Bracelet is clearly not correct but I’ve seen the two-tone JBC that are correct for these pop up periodically. Would also look stellar on leather, and any 19mm aftermarket Jubilee style would totally make this thing look unlike anything out there 😉 sorry, can’t help myself. Pricing is fair, these usually go into the $3xx’s in worse shape.

Suck it Rolex!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Bulov...=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

 
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A completely original design by Bulova circa 1969- unlike any watch that has ever been made, truly unique!

Ok, got that out- Bulova’s answer to the DJ- 37mm (seller says 36 but they are 37) 333 Oceanographer in stainless case with 10k gold fluted bezel. These are usually a mess, lume is normally ashy and black, dials are typically water damaged- this is almost an anomoly. I own this watch in black dial and it is a total F-you to Rolex, which is what makes these so sweet. Bracelet is clearly not correct but I’ve seen the two-tone JBC that are correct for these pop up periodically. Would also look stellar on leather, and any 19mm aftermarket Jubilee style would totally make this thing look unlike anything out there 😉 sorry, can’t help myself. Pricing is fair, these usually go into the $3xx’s in worse shape.

Suck it Rolex!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Bulov...=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

Do I see W Germany on the inside of the case back? Not familiar with these, but I thought Bulova was US made...W Germany is intriguing.

Edit: Just found another with the same marking inside the case back. Hmmm, I see a rabbit hole to venture down!
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Do I see W Germany on the inside of the case back? Not familiar with these, but I thought Bulova was US made...W Germany is intriguing.

Edit: Just found another with the same marking inside the case back. Hmmm, I see a rabbit hole to venture down!
The company was USA based but had been contracting cases in Europe for decades, the 666 used a CB- Swiss made cases, and their movement plant was in Switzerland until the late 70’s.
 
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I should amend, the Accutrons were made in the US as far as I know. Not sure if case, movment and dials, but the movements were. We do have some Accutron experts here who I’m sure could give day/week/month/year of when Bulova did what.
 
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A completely original design by Bulova circa 1969- unlike any watch that has ever been made, truly unique!
Ok, got that out- Bulova’s answer to the DJ- 37mm (seller says 36 but they are 37) 333 Oceanographer in stainless case with 10k gold fluted bezel.
Started looking at Oceanographers after seeing the one you linked. This one is not a bargain, but it is NOS. Mostly though, check out the case profile and that half-inch thick beveled acrylic crystal. YOW!!
MEN'S BULOVA OCEANOGRAPHER AUTOMATIC 333 - NOS | eBay

 
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Birth year? I have passively been looking for an ‘82 gg-w113 for @Mad Dog as I remember him saying that was his year of enlistment and he never got one issued to him. Since he was a pilot, he would have gotten the hacking 113 and not the 46374
Fairly close on the enlistment year…not ‘82 but ‘86.
 
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Fairly close on the enlistment year…not ‘82 but ‘86.
Gotcha, @Myron , was Hamilton still doing the GG-w113 in ‘86 or had they moved on to a new contractor?
 
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Started looking at Oceanographers after seeing the one you linked. This one is not a bargain, but it is NOS. Mostly though, check out the case profile and that half-inch thick beveled acrylic crystal. YOW!!
MEN'S BULOVA OCEANOGRAPHER AUTOMATIC 333 - NOS | eBay

Yeah, look at that date cyclops, looks like a block of melting ice! The 70’s was a rough period for Bulova, they were really trying, so hard to hang on. To think they went from the Astronaut, Devil diver and Deep sea glory to pretty much bankrupt in 10 years is absolutely tragic. We think Rolex and Omega are “big boys” now, but Bulova was a friggin powerhouse!
 
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I should amend, the Accutrons were made in the US as far as I know. Not sure if case, movment and dials, but the movements were. We do have some Accutron experts here who I’m sure could give day/week/month/year of when Bulova did what.

There were definitely Swiss made Accutrons. I am not sure of what the arrangement was.

See: https://www.accutron214.com/accutronq&a.htm

 
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Bargain thread trash to treasure report:

So about a year ago+ I bought a ratty looking Devil diver. I already has my minty one, but this ratty sucker popped up and I put in a low ball bid- and won. When I got it, it was rough, but running.


The bracelet was stretched out and bent up, the crystal was so crazed you could barely see through it. The crown had been replaced with an Accutron crown (most likely from the 702 Deep Sea), but the bezel was crack free, case had sharp lines and I luckily had hoarded parts for these, so knew going in I had what I needed provided the bones were solid.
I gave it to my watch handy friend Justin (not a watchmaker) and he finally got around to working on it over the last few days.

Of course the gasket had turned to goo, that is one part I didn’t hoard as 50 year old gaskets, I wouldn’t trust NOS or not (so that’s the only thing missing at this point). And it’s more of a thick-ass o-ring than an actual gasket, the hardware or auto parts store may actually be a good place to find one.
The lume had fallen out of the hands and was missing from about half of the filled “pots”. Rather than doing pips on the dial, Bulova chose to use applied acrylic “pots”, they are like little frosted blocks that illuminate with the lume below. I had no clue how these pots were filled, but in Bulova’s (Singer’s) infinite wisdom, they applied the pots to the dial, then filled the lume from underneath.
Unlike my other 666, the lume color on this was a very pale green and not pale yellow. Justin being a purist matched the green identically (he has a system for matching lume color which is truly an art form) with the original color and refilled the pots and hands.

Hands back on, time to work on the case


Having already taken it all apart, Justin went at lightly wet sanding the bezel.


The original case polishing was a little rough, he just gave it a quick hand polish to get it cleaned up.
Correct crown from my stash

The bracelet was a mess. If was almost falling apart as the folded center links were all pulled apart. But luckily these are pretty easy to tighten up with a delicate touch and two pairs of micro pliers (tape the ends to not leave tool marks). I’ve done it myself on other folded bracelets of the this period and you are not only refolding a crimp but also rolling the curve back up. It’s almost like a push and roll together to get the curve right, otherwise you will just crush the metal flat.
He asked me if the bracelet was brushed or polished. I know the cases were all polished, but having only seen 50 year bullet bracelets, I didn’t know if there were options. While working on the bracelet he realized that the underside showed brushing on the center links- it was totally worn down on top. So he reapplied the brushing to the center, being careful to not over polish the bracelet so the patina still matched the watch and matching the grain of the brushing.

the finished product-


Next to the modern reissue which was mine is is now his (I love that Bulova/citizen reissued this watch- a bold move)

And a lume shot with color matched luminova to look like the original Tritium.


I love hunting for diamonds in the rough, but without an artisan like Justin (who is completely self taught and this is his hobby), a watchmaker willing and capable of lume and case work, or having the skills yourself - it just wouldn’t be possible to do this kind of restoration.