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  1. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 27, 2012

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  2. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 27, 2012

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    OK Dennis keep quiet this time. I stopped counting after 6. :)
     
  3. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Oct 27, 2012

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    No longer available, but yuck...:thumbsdown:
     
  4. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 27, 2012

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    Good, it had already been bid up over $350 when I spotted it!
     
  5. ulackfocus Oct 27, 2012

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    Mum's the word.
     
  6. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Oct 28, 2012

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    Nobody else has had a go, so here is my shot:
    - the movement doesn't have the "adjusted" script. But cal 562s are COSC certified aren't they? Or are some 562s COSC certified and some not? How does that work? Surely if a design is COSC certified then they all should be?
    - where 562s used in Constellations? According to this http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-spot-fake-Omega-Constellations?ugid=10000000003815816 they weren't, but according to Chuck Maddox they were http://www.chronomaddox.com/OmegaCaliberList.html#Constellations
    - different colours in the movement, indicating replacement parts
    - wrong crown
    - hands are wrong? should be semi-skeleton dauphine hands?
    - medallion is badly polished (but that doesn't make it a Franken)

    Anything else?
     
  7. shaun hk Fairy nuffer Oct 28, 2012

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    I can see the minute track is way off from the hour markers especially at 8, 10 & 11
     
  8. Sherbie Oct 28, 2012

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    It looks like an old seamaster case to me.

    Cal 562 was never used in Connies.

    Serial number dates movement to 1959, as does the "Automatic Chronometer" nomenclature (1958-61ish) but there has been a lot of changes to the movement as has been noted previously.

    Didnt get to view the inner caseback - was this shown in the original listing?

    Cheers, Paul
     
  9. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 29, 2012

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  10. pknopp Oct 29, 2012

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    So let me ask.......has that one also been ground down to make it a 565? Or is that just camera angle?
     
  11. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 29, 2012

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    Right point of interest, but wrong question :)
     
  12. seamonster Respectable Member Oct 29, 2012

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    Respectable Member dsio

    Though not easy. The day people become more informed, the franken and fake population will drop.

    The majority of the Constellations on the market is not factory-original, at all. They are either molested, franken or downright, fake. This is just sickening.

    Thank-you.
     
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  14. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 29, 2012

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    No it is not ground but it is not the angle either . It is a poor photo with bad lighting, lack of close detail and slightly different beveling in the jewel well.
    The issue here, as Ashley alluded to, is that a 565 is not a Constellation or a chronometer movement. BTW, movement components, such as bridges, may be sometimes be modified by manufacturer's to suit the case or watch.
     
  15. pknopp Oct 29, 2012

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    I see. Thanks.
     
  16. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 29, 2012

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    Most likely that 565 started its life in a Seamaster Cosmic that was shagged out or lost its gold plating or otherwise ended up selling for sod all, and then found its way into a pile of parts that became that watch.