Real or fake?

adrian23 · Sep 20, 2024

Hello guys! I have this watch from my but i don’t know if it’s real or fake. All i know is that it was made in the 80’s and is a Porsche Design Orfina Military Chronograph 6645-12-194-8642 BUND 1023. Can you help me out to find out?

asloper6001 · Oct 14, 2024

Id lean towards real, but I'm no expert. Everything lines up well and engravings look good.

Foo2rama · Oct 14, 2024

I am not an expert on these, but I can tell you I cannot find that exact same case as a Porsche case, that looks like the Arctos case to me. https://www.invaluable.com/auction-...ronograph-of-the-bundeswehr-3339-c-01043879ea is the only similar case I can find.

JimInOz · Oct 14, 2024

Could be a PD caseback on a Tutima/Arctos/Orfina.
These are like vintage Seikos, unless you have excellent provenance, chances are you have a collection of parts.
Is the crown marked PD or is it blank?
There are "homages" floating around, but I don't think they go to the trouble of BUND markings, NSN etc.

Foo2rama · Oct 14, 2024

@JimInOz perfect analogy with some vintage Seiko.

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