Hi guys,
I just bought this seamaster which I think is from around 1961 (ref 18646451), but I am wondering if it is a fake because the back doesn't have the seahorse on it. I know that the seahorses were introduced in 1958 so it should have one.
Any help would be appreciated.

 

Am I wrong or these straight lugs look more like a Genève or Deville? The international collection had no seahorse which would make me think the dial is not original but I may be wrong.

 

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-161-009-or-162-009.5681/

Maybe a geneve dial was replaced with a seamaster dial.

 

I don't think this is a Seamaster case so perhaps it's a redial or the dial has been changed.
According to Omega's website the case is for a Geneve:
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-omega-geneve-omega-bb-162-0009
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-omega-geneve-omega-st-162-0009

 

Looks like gatorcpa beat me to it so sorry for duplicate information

 

Not seamaster expert. IMHO
1. According to reference book in hand, the movement cal 562 is correct for case ref.162.009.
2. The dial appears to be original and aged naturally.

What left unanswered is the missing Sreamaster logo at the case back? I am not sure if is rubbed. Or, it is not there ?

 

☝️ the handbook that I mentioned

 

May well be...

 

Hi,
my online research for this reference showed up different dials with either Geneve, Seamaster or just Automatic.
(provided they are no fakes of course)
None of the cases had an Seahorse logo on its back.
What Gartorcpa said " It very well could be, as Omega tended to mix and match models depending on where they were sold."
seems to make most sense to me

 

Thanks everyone, very helpful information which is much appreciated

 

Hi both links say that those watches (Geneve) aren't water resistant, I assume as they have a press-in case back. I think that the watch also has a press-in case, therefore not being water resistant and also not a Seamaster, however I don't know if this logic is totally correct

 

It sounds logical but I think there are examples of early Seamasters with snap on casebacks. I'm not sure why Omega did this. I have a Seamaster from the early 1950s and it has a screw in caseback. The case has 'SEAMASTER' engraved on the back but without the Seamonster logo.

 

I know that the early one's didn't have the logo, I think it was introduced in around 1958 according to another thread.

 

The case back for the 162009 didn't have anything at all on the outside.

Of the dials that I can see that are related to this case number, they include Geneve dials, dials with no model on them (just Omega and Automatic), and Seamaster DeVille, but none that I can see that were just Seamaster like the example shown here. That doesn't mean it wasn't possible though.

Cheers, Al

 

I agree












(Crown non correct)

 

A 1966 Omega dealer's catalog confirms this model, ref.162.009 cal.562 with a "non Seamaster" dial.

 

That's one of many examples using this case number though...