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  1. propervinyl Jun 11, 2017

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    Hi OF,

    I am looking at a gold 145.016 that looks kind of OK, but I'm having trouble determining whether the dial is original, or whether it is a really good redial. Specifically, it looks like the fonts on "Omega" and "Seamaster", subsecond indices, and tachymetre print is a bit bolder than other photos I've seen.

    My research has yielded some minor font variations in 145.016 models, but I also havent found good photos of other watches.

    What do you all think?

    Also, if you think this thread should be moved somewhere else in the forum, let me know.

    Thanks in advance!

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  2. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Jun 11, 2017

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    T Swiss made T yet I see no tritium?
     
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  3. GuiltyBoomerang Jun 12, 2017

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    On the hour indices and minute/hour hands?

    It does look slightly iffy...
     
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  4. kreyke Jun 12, 2017

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    Is it me or the right side of "omega" is sloping upwards?
     
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  5. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 12, 2017

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    Redial.

    Pic added.

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  6. cagkut Jun 12, 2017

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    Can you please elaborate? If that to-be star point out to the location of the markers they are all correctly placed?
     
  7. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 12, 2017

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    Are you sure the watch is perfectly straight in the picture?

    This is why I don't like using this technique for determining originality of a dial.

    No substitute for having it in your hand with a loupe.
    gatorcpa
     
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  8. propervinyl Jun 12, 2017

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    Thanks Jim!

    Going to stay away from this one.
     
  9. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 12, 2017

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    I agree, but the shot looks very close to square-on and the difference in position is too much to ignore. The inking is also much too heavy for my liking. The extra "T" ? I can't see any marker lume, and I'm not sure I can see any hand lume either, maybe on the minute hand.

    With pics of this quality, and the doubts raised I think it's safer to walk away.
     
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  10. Sherbie Jun 12, 2017

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    The case alone would stop me from bidding on this one. Keep searching, is my 2 cents
     
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  11. propervinyl Jun 12, 2017

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    Why I love this forum. Thank you all for steering me away.
     
  12. cagkut Jun 13, 2017

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    That's another story but I don't see anything wrong with that dial in the pics provided. Inking heavy? This I guess implies that someone had repainted the dial from scratch and if that is the case, it is pure art and the watch should be valued accordingly ;)
     
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  13. ConElPueblo Jun 13, 2017

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    AFAIK, all of these have T's, regardless of having lume or not. The watch is slanted slightly, as can be seen from the shadows forming between the lugs, btw.

    If this is a redial, it is pretty well executed. The only thing that makes me pause is the slightly heavy-handed text.

    Here's an example found when googling around ;)

    http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-1968-omega-18k-seamaster-caliber-321-chronograph-492270.html

    [​IMG]
     
  14. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 13, 2017

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  15. Edward53 Jun 13, 2017

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    I would not judge that watch by the "heavy" lettering. The light can make a huge difference to a photo. This is the same watch:

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  16. kreyke Jun 13, 2017

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    But the M itself in seamaster, the left side is thicker than the rest of it. Looks unequal heavy handed text.
     
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  17. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 13, 2017

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    The OP's picture is out of focus.

    You cannot tell for sure from the photos provided. My gut says original.
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  18. propervinyl Jun 13, 2017

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    Out of focus and poorly lit.

    Right now its at $2,100 with 20 mins to go. Maybe one of you guys have an extra dial laying around and this is worth the risk for you. I'm going to pass.
     
  19. Thomas P. The P is for Palladium and Platinum Jun 13, 2017

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    I say original dial too. I watched until the end. Sold for $3148. Sheesh a solid gold chronograph is $1000 less than a DON bezel. Decisions decisions; a whole solid gold watch or a stainless steel part of a watch...
     
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