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Quiz for newbies - spot the problems

CanberraOmega
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I put this up last thing before I went to bed. Really enjoying reading the results!

@oddboy, you were basing your comments on a 1950s/1960s Connnie. It all changed in the late 60s, with the words on the dial switching places.

Yes, the redial was obviously. The Frankenstein-ness required the little bit of research, which I may not have done/realised when I was a noob.
 
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Good observations. I'm not a Connie lover so I can't say how many are right, but this is the essence of the exercise and the principals hang true for any dial you look at.

Now, how about the minute track - and then that has covered everything with which the re-finisher has had a hand - we'll assume that he has put the markers on the right way round (unlike some dials we've seen) or at least they are symmetrical with feet at even spacing from the ends.
 
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Now, how about the minute track
Should be longer and start at the base of the markers. There doesn't appear to be enough space (or consistent space) around the markers though so are they misapplied or some of the dial is covered? The date window covers some so they aren't in the right place.

Come to think of it though, I've been looking only at day-date dials so the date-only versions could be different. In fact, one example in AJTT has a shorter minute track that may not quite line up with the markers. Though they are well clear of the date window. And the second there has the date window covering the track, though hard to make out. Different sizes methinks.

Not sure we know what dial this was in the first place. Do we?
 
Stewart H
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... and that bloated thing at 3 o'clock.

The minute track is often the thing that jumps out. Given that there are 60 minutes in an hour, each one represents 6 degrees, so as this is printed before the markers are re-applied every 30 degrees, if they are out, the spacing to the hour markers will be out everywhere - unless it is a free-hand re-dial. The other thing to look for is if they are arranged in a circle or faceted between the hour markers.

There are a few instances of re-dials in both the Omega Museum and AJTT
 
JimInOz
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I'm just in awe of the movement holder tabs.
 
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Stewart H Stewart H
There are a few instances of re-dials in both the Omega Museum and AJTT
<sigh> Yes, I've heard that. Is there a list somewhere?
 
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flyingout flyingout
<sigh> Yes, I've heard that. Is there a list somewhere?
It'd be hard to make but AJTT is more a chronicle of Omega's history and variety than a specific guide like Moonwatch Only is
 
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It just so happens that Constellations are my thing so this is a great post -well done Canberra!
I'm pleased to say that I picked up a lot (but not all) of the faults -so it was fun and educational.
 
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The right question would have been "what is correct in this watch ?".
 
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@oddboy, you were basing your comments on a 1950s/1960s Connnie. It all changed in the late 60s, with the words on the dial switching places.

Cheers, I'll go with that! I haven't spent much time on Connies to be honest.. just not my bag. It's still fun though. I may do a little more study on them just for the knowledge. I just love chronographs, use 'em all the time.

Anyway, yes, this was a good post! Linking out to sources of info (like Desmond's blog) is always helpful for those of us with little experience and for new comers.

I wonder if a sticky with some pointers to some good sources of info would be good? Broken out by line (Connie, Speedy, 30mm, etc)?
 
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There were a few "transition periods" with Constellations from the 50's to the 70's. The first was in the late 50's ('55-ish to '58-ish) when Omega was converting to full rotor automatics from bumpers. Then the early 60's saw another short time when Omega was changing from 5 digit to 6 digit reference numbers ('62-ish, give or take a year). The other notable era was in the early 70's ('72-ish) when they were changing from the 55x/56x/75x calibers to the 10xx calibers, and text on the dial was changing from top to bottom and vice versa. Lotsa weirdness going on in those spans.
 
Peemacgee
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I am a Connie lover -so was looking at Ebay.co.uk this evening and came across this
-it was beautiful watch once upon a time
it kind of fits in with the theme of the thread -although it could also feature in (subtly) worst redials
-do you think they got just got bored at 'five to the hour'?
I'm sure the eagle eyed will spot the additional inconsistencies....

in case someone wants a slightly squiffy Connie -here is the 'Bay link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1953-35mm...614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a4c3cdee

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I put this up last thing before I went to bed. Really enjoying reading the results!

@oddboy, you were basing your comments on a 1950s/1960s Connnie. It all changed in the late 60s, with the words on the dial switching places.

Yes, the redial was obviously. The Frankenstein-ness required the little bit of research, which I may not have done/realised when I was a noob.

So you were a noob in the beginning as well.
 
CanberraOmega
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So you were a noob in the beginning as well.
F*ck yeah. And my knowledge is still very limited. Am a fish out of water when it comes to the intricacies of early speedies.
 
oddboy
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I'll take early speedies over the sprawling sea of knowledge required to pick up a proper connie!

(ok, well, MWO makes speedies a lot easier!)
 
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F*ck yeah. And my knowledge is still very limited. Am a fish out of water when it comes to the intricacies of early speedies.

I respect your modesty and good level of knowledge
 
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