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  1. goodtrader Oct 12, 2015

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    Does anyone know whether Omega made the late 50s / early 60s Railmaster with reference other than 2914? thanks!
     
  2. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Oct 12, 2015

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  3. goodtrader Oct 12, 2015

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    thanks oddboy, this is exactly what i was looking for!
     
  4. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Oct 12, 2015

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    and the white dial prototype for Canada ( in very low numbers...) from the late 50`s had the old mil. reference 2777. but not the 2777-1 markings of the 1953 mil. watch. . 2777 was exactly in the middle of the inner back . they used the old surplus cases and movements and inner amag. cages for the test of different dial designs in silver/white for their new Amagnetic watch. as Rolex did for the factory prototypes of various Submariner dial designs. they were white/silver as well....kind regards. achim....... Bill Soehne did a lot of research and John Diethelm from the factory confirmed a lot from their side.
     
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  5. Tom Dick and Harry Oct 14, 2015

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    I've seen a couple of the white dial prototypes, there is one for sale in Miami at the moment, cool watches and very much the prototype for the Railmaster, but if you want the real deal then buy a military 1953 Omega, basically a rail master but 5 years earlier and you can still buy a minter for less than £1500, you won't find a decent railmaster for twice that

    I sold a NOS with extract 135.004 about four years back for £6500, a great watch and lovely to wear but I love the 53 more
     
  6. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Oct 14, 2015

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  7. goodtrader Oct 14, 2015

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    Thanks Tom... Is that the 2777-1 ?
     
  8. Tom Dick and Harry Oct 14, 2015

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    This is the one for sale in the US

    There was one went through a UK auction house last month and it went for peanuts, I completely missed it and am still kicking myself

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  9. goodtrader Oct 14, 2015

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    Tom, which reference is that?
     
  10. Tom Dick and Harry Oct 14, 2015

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  11. goodtrader Oct 14, 2015

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    thanks again Tom!
     
  12. Tom Dick and Harry Oct 14, 2015

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    My pleasure, be interested to see yours if you have one?
     
  13. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Oct 14, 2015

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    Love the RAF '53 and one of my favorites among all vintage omegas - nice size, well built, reliable movement, military provenance and antimagnetic shielding. Vastly undervalued IMO especially the much harder to find TA variants. Personally for me, I would rather have a really nice '53 TA than a really nice 2914.
     
  14. goodtrader Oct 14, 2015

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    Tom, to answer your question, I don't own a Railmaster right. But I am going to look into the '53 2777 you suggest... But, the whole reason that I started this thread was because I saw this Railmaster with a bizarre Ref at an upcoming European auction. I would love to hear what you guys make of this... Seems to me the case is not original...

    Railmaster1.jpg Railmaster2.jpg Railmaster3.jpg
    Railmaster4.jpg
     
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  15. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Oct 15, 2015

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    what auction house ? skip that one; a piece of shit. a few years ago these surfaced with the laser engraving in the back C & R. kind regards. achim
     
  16. cristos71 Oct 15, 2015

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    The 2652 reference on the fake is actually an early Constellation reference
     
  17. goodtrader Oct 15, 2015

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    Achim, the auction house is Auctionata in Germany. They are generally decent. I have purchase stuff from them in the past. This listing has a low reserve, so I wanted to do some research to see if I were missing anything... So you guys think the entire watch is a fake (movement and dial) or just the case? thanks.
     
  18. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Oct 15, 2015

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    Movement original (but probably not from a railmaster) and the case, dial and hands are FAKE.
     
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  19. goodtrader Oct 15, 2015

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    Hey Tom, Matt Bain wants $20k for that watch pic/link you posted. Too rich for my blood! Anyway, just doing some research on the '53 ref 2777 you recommended, it looks like some of the dials indicate "Swiss" on the bottom and some don't. Usually, the ones that don't have a T with a circle under the Omega inscription. Any thoughts that and how to tell if a dial was redone? thanks
     
  20. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Oct 15, 2015

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    That Bain watch though is special - one of the very few 30mm manual wind movements with a swan neck regulator - I got a photo of the movement. This is only the second one that has surfaced that I know of with the black dial without an arrow. It's a once in a lifetime find and rarer than even the 2915 speedmaster. This is a prototype movement omega tried and only a few have surfaced mostly with the rare white dial railmaster in the same case.
     
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