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Project #2 For my Conservator: 37mm Jumbo Connie Dial 168.001

  1. WatchVaultNYC Dec 5, 2018

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    So I picked up one of these babies (I am growing fond of this model), with the hope of my conservator saving the dial.

    For some of you who have read about her previous attempt at restoring a Breitling 806 dial last year - it went really well until she tried reluming it, so lesson learned, stick with conservation. Given her background in art conservation (instead of watchmaking), I continue to believe providing her with more and more experience with watch dials will eventually provide me with a specialist that can salvage dials that would otherwise be sent to a refinisher

    I suspect that the main issue here is that the clear coat on the dial has degraded, and that the careful removal and re-application of new clear coat can fix most of the problems (Connie experts please disabuse me if this is not the original dial before I throw some $$$ into fixing it)

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    The best article I read about this approach was from Desmond's website:

    http://users.tpg.com.au/mondodec//Seamaster_Conserve.pdf

    After some research and effort I was able to subsequently contact Mr Dewan, who did the miracle job in the article. He told me he had retired 10 years prior and has moved on to other endeavors, but was gracious enough to provide some more detail on his process that I subsequently passed on to my conservator, who will attempt the same process on this dial.

    I'll keep the forum updated on the progress
     
  2. Sherbie Dec 5, 2018

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    Best of luck, but looks absolutley fine to me as it stands
     
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  3. Rman Dec 5, 2018

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    Like the idea of ‘dial conservators’ as a profession that can help preserve our precious dials, and touch up the damaged ones. So far even the best in the field seem to have mixed results. Good luck
     
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  4. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Dec 5, 2018

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    Would leave the dial as-is...:(

    Best of luck if you decide to try it out but I also think it looks great as-is. Not worth the risk IMO...
     
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  5. wsfarrell Dec 6, 2018

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    I've watched a bunch of the Baumgartner videos on fine art restoration, and it's astonishing what a good conservator can do. I hold my breath when he starts removing the old varnish from a painting, but it comes off without harming the paint beneath.

    If you really value this particular watch, you might buy a rat watch on eBay with a similar dial for your conservator to practice on.
     
  6. ConElPueblo Dec 6, 2018

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    I would have left that dial well alone too.
     
  7. WatchVaultNYC Dec 6, 2018

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    hmnn.. I am getting swayed.. it DOES look better the longer I look at it.. maybe a good idea to start off with a beat up IWC cal 89 dial.. for practice?
     
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  8. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Dec 6, 2018

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    Sonny is a great guy. Used to fix all my watches.

    He always told me that his method was geared specifically towards solid gold dials (like the featured watch in Desmond's article). He was always very hesitant about using it for other dials as the chemicals could have a bad reaction with the dial metals (silver or brass).

    I like the idea of trying it with something not valuable first.
    gatorcpa
     
  9. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Dec 6, 2018

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    I look at the dial and absolutely think the bumps at 4 look like they are from the dial side and not the top side.
     
  10. td69 Dec 8, 2018

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    +1 on keeping the dial as-is if this were mine. I actually find the dial quite appealing. Thanks for sharing anyway. Looking forward to seeing the progress if you decide to go ahead.
     
  11. kelev_ra Dec 8, 2018

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    I'd leave the dial as-is as well...
     
  12. TheDarkness Jun 7, 2020

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    Sorry, crown is original? Tks
     
  13. Maskelyne Jun 7, 2020

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    For me this is a vintage watch with a beautiful dial that shall be preserved for the next generations as it is. Champagne, chocolates, mother of pearl... I get several emotions when I look at the stunning vintage dial :) Please leave it untouched.