Price upon request

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Frankly, here's nothing nefarious about any of this. I'm not looking to sell my car but if some random guy offers me twice what it's worth, I'm probably going to sell my car.

 
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Unless it's an item that I REALLY want. If I see "POA", I just go on to the next listing has has the price marked.
 
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The above is just a nice way of saying, “if you have to ask the price, you can’t afford it.”
gatorcpa
 
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Wow, thread necrology. One reason I've seen is the same as @citizenrich's answer: dealers may have multiple sales channels or markets and publishing prices may restrict your ability to maximize return from the different customer bases. Let's say you're a jeweler in a swanky area and you have some nice vintage watches. You know that someone who comes through the door is willing to pay more for a watch they can handle in person and buy right now from a reputable storefront than some highly-informed buyer on the Internet. But if you publish a lower price on your website, that in-store customer will feel ripped off if they find it after the purchase, and you certainly can't get the same price if they find it before they buy.

Not offering prices online other than on request gives you the ability to change the price depending on the buyer without too much of a problem. Now, this may not be a great idea: as noted, it makes it harder to draw in buyers who don't bother to ask the price. But it's not without justification.

This is, in my experience, the biggest reason why products for sale to companies rarely have prices online, rather saying "contact us for a quote"; other reasons include desire to get customers in touch in person (also valid for watches) and customized products which are hard to price without specific details of the customer's needs (not relevant here).
 
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a dealer’s answer to this question:

I don't buy it. Isn't it just as easy to change the platform to just list the price and have no "add to cart" button?
 
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I don't buy it. Isn't it just as easy to change the platform to just list the price and have no "add to cart" button?
Exactly.

This happens in all sorts of areas, not just watches (collector cars, for example). These sellers are convinced of their own charms and negotiating abilities, and they believe that if they get you involved in a conversation, they can sway you to buy some overpriced item. These are the same sellers who think that a price like $17,988 will be viewed as significantly less than $18,000.
 
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Same thing on Instagram. Sellers keep saying "DM for Price". When I ask its always higher than the market price for that watch.
 
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A lot of what has been written in this thread is not true from my experience. "Price on request" is not reserved only for the top notch rare and valuable watches; quite often there really doesn't seem to be any clear difference between watches with prices and watches without prices, e.g. on the Matthew Bain site. And there is no personal contact or sales pitch associated with a request. A couple of times I have been interested enough in a watch on his website that was marked price on request that I sent a message, and I heard back from a salesperson, who simply sent me an email with the asking price. Not by phone or personally from Matthew Bain. These were nice watches, but not incredibly rare, and the asking prices were totally outrageous, at least 2x a fair auction price. Honestly, I think it's just a way to build a mailing list.
 
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"If you have to ask you can't afford it"

You beat me to it!
The above is just a nice way of saying, “if you have to ask the price, you can’t afford it.”
gatorcpa

It can also be interpreted as we have this piece at full market value plus $'s plus BS ( quietly it means we have to cover the big $ lume and case job done in Australia, far enough away to allay suspicions )
 
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$17,988 will be viewed as significantly less than $18,000

I'll take it!

Seriously, though. I've been on eBay for 20yrs, and can say for a fact there is way more bullshit happening on high price items than low price.

I put far more qualifications on my high price items because there are a lot of people who, for lack of a better term, "drunk buy" expensive things thinking its fun or cheeky, and then never pay. Below $300, almost never...$300-$1000 sometimes, over $1000, very frequently...would estimate 60-70% of buyers.

BTW, a clever trick on ebay is that you can buy an item but not pay for it right away. The "non payer" status kicks in after a few days and still gives them another 4 days to pay without penalty, so what happens is someone buys an item(ie effectively reserving it for themselves) and then has a week to think about it before the purchase is automatically cancelled by ebay. This happens with alarming frequency. The consequence to the buyer for doing this?...nothing. They get a non payment note on their account that is not part of their rating.
 
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On liveautcioneers there are some sellers that “start” at $1 but have reserves set at above normal selling prices for watches that also include 25% auction fees. As such these watches never sell. There is one seller that lists 35 Rolex Subs of various ages and conditions and not a single item will “sell” during their auctions. I’m convinced this is either some sort of money laundering operation or something else I cannot figure out. Perhaps they hope to trick some new purchaser but literally not a single watch sells during their auctions.

I’ve also seen auction sellers list their watches artificially high on chrono24 and then sell for a reduced price at auction. This helps when somebody searches for the going rate on a watch “oh this Delbas Chrono 1962 goes for $5,000” and then they’re able to buy it at auction for $1300 thinking they just got a steal.