Price range for a vintage 60s Omega Constellation?

hsk28 · Mar 25, 2020

Sorry if this the wrong place to ask but what should the price range of a vintage Constellation in good/very good condition be?

I'm on the lookout for something very similar to this:

Peemacgee · Mar 25, 2020

That rather depends on where you intend to buy it from.
Ebay
Auction
Retail
OF

Here’s a nice one that sold on OF very recently to give you a ball park figure.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/fs-omega-constellation-168-010.108895/#post-1444981

Hope that helps.

hsk28 · Mar 25, 2020

Peemacgee
That rather depends on where you intend to buy it from.
Ebay
Auction
Retail
OF

Here’s a nice one that sold on OF very recently to give you a ball park figure.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/fs-omega-constellation-168-010.108895/#post-1444981

Hope that helps.

Wow I'm envious of whoever bought that beauty. This does help, thank you!

aprax · Mar 26, 2020

Here's another sold last week at auction in the Netherlands for a hammer price of 750 eur (about 950 eur alltogether). Could have gone to twice that amount or at least 1.500 eur since it's a pie pan:

https://veiling.veilinghuisderuiter...ega-constellation-pie-pan-168010-herenhorloge

Peemacgee · Mar 26, 2020

aprax
Here's another sold last week at auction in the Netherlands for a hammer price of 750 eur (about 950 eur alltogether). Could have gone to twice that amount or at least 1.500 eur since it's a pie pan:

https://veiling.veilinghuisderuiter...ega-constellation-pie-pan-168010-herenhorloge

bit of a strange one this.
there appears to have been only one bid.
it could be because the auction pics were so over exposed that it looks like the watch has no facets.
you can just see them on the boxed pic but they aren't well defined. (which wasn't on the saleroom info for the lot)

at 750 euros, I think the hammer price isn't uncommon for a hidden crown Connie, although pie-pans have gone a little higher in recent memory (but not much higher) - this one looks to have a nice dial and had the pics been better the watch may have realised a higher hammer price.

auction pics for the record

cristos71 · Mar 26, 2020

I think it was a cracking watch at that price. For me too late a period but if you're into 60's Connie's then this was IMO a great deal

Passover · Mar 26, 2020

Various different Connies from that period available, did you check them out? 😉

https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-constellations-show-and-tell.19186/

gbesq · Mar 26, 2020

In addition to all of the good advice given above, other factors that influence price are the specific year and model, dial type
(pie pans generally sell for more), date versus no date (I prefer no date), case material (stainless steel, gold cap, solid gold), bracelet type and material (eg, period correct stainless steel beads of rice will fetch more than an aftermarket leather band), and special dial features (e.g., gold arrowhead markers or markers with onyx inlays).

Peemacgee · Mar 26, 2020

gbesq
In addition to all of the good advice given above, other factors that influence price are the specific year and model, dial type
(pie pans generally sell for more), date versus no date (I prefer no date), case material (stainless steel, gold cap, solid gold), bracelet type and material (eg, period correct stainless steel beads of rice will fetch more than an aftermarket leather band), and special dial features (e.g., gold arrowhead markers or markers with onyx inlays).

All sound advice.
Although, in the case of the OP looking for a dome-dial 168.010, they will have to settle for watch with a date complication.
-and BORs with 19mm end links are like hens teeth.

They do come in a range of materials (including pink) and a couple of movements and hands options.

BTW @hsk28, to broaden your search, you might want to also consider the .010s cousin, the earlier 168.004
Very (very) similar to the .010 but with the 'standard' Connie 18mm between the lugs instead of 19mm.

hsk28 · Mar 26, 2020

Thanks a ton to everyone for the replies. This is all super helpful information!

If anyone is still hanging around this thread.. do all the early 60s Constellations have the semi hidden crown? I keep seeing a few decent examples around but most don't have the semi hidden crown like in my original post

Passover · Mar 26, 2020

H hsk28
Thanks a ton to everyone for the replies. This is all super helpful information!

If anyone is still hanging around this thread.. do all the early 60s Constellations have the semi hidden crown? I keep seeing a few decent examples around but most don't have the semi hidden crown like in my original post

The Dog Leg and Lyre Shaped Connies have 'normal' crowns these are not semi hidden ones

Further reading (despite the Vintage Constellation show and tell thread) is:

http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/

Passover · Mar 26, 2020

H hsk28
do all the early 60s Constellations have the semi hidden crown?

IMO the semi hidden crown models aren't early 60s but mid and late 60ies. Many are seen with a 25 million serial dating them roughtly to 1967

The earliest 60s Connies were Lyre Shaped, followed by Dog Leg, than the OP one.

Peemacgee · Mar 26, 2020

H hsk28
do all the early 60s Constellations have the semi hidden crown? I keep seeing a few decent examples around but most don't have the semi hidden crown like in my original post

@hsk28, a lot of the hidden crown Connies have had their crowns replaced - and Omega no longer make the slim hidden version, so you will see a lot with expressed crowns (just to confuse things further, there is also a second 'domed' semi-hidden crown that may have originally appeared on some of these watches and is also listed as a replacement crown.)
Plus, if you haven't yet got to grips with the variations, there are later 'round cased' Connies (from later 60s) that look similar to the .004s and .010s, but with flatter dials - these watches always had an expressed crown. (168.018 and day/date 168.016)

Passover
IMO the semi hidden crown models aren't early 60s but mid and late 60ies.

Strictly speaking the first hidden crown Connie (168.004) was released in 1962 but, @Passover, I'll concede that you really don't see many that early.
It's always confusing that there seems to have been a significant overlap with the .004s and the .010s, to the point where (very uncommonly) some .004s even have cal 564 engines. (and a little more commonly early .010s have cal 561 movts)

Passover · Mar 26, 2020

Peemacgee
Strictly speaking the first hidden crown Connie (168.004) was released in 1962 but, @Passover, I'll concede that you really don't see many that early.
It's always confusing that there seems to have been a significant overlap with the .004s and the .010s, to the point where (very uncommonly) some .004s even have cal 564 engines. (and a little more commonly early .010s have cal 561 movts)

That was new to me. great to have such a well informed and experienced member here on Omegaforums! 👍

dsacks30 · Mar 26, 2020

This isn’t exactly the 60s (according to the description it is circa 1956), but what looks to be a beautiful Constellation is coming up for auction on Sunday. I’m not an expert on these, so any thoughts on what would be a fair price? The estimate is 2,800-3,400 GBP.

https://auctions.watchesofknightsbr...-details/8835848c-0e34-4465-9cb8-ab6a01106b2a

Peemacgee · Mar 27, 2020

dsacks30
This isn’t exactly the 60s (according to the description it is circa 1956), but what looks to be a beautiful Constellation is coming up for auction on Sunday. I’m not an expert on these, so any thoughts on what would be a fair price? The estimate is 2,800-3,400 GBP.

https://auctions.watchesofknightsbr...-details/8835848c-0e34-4465-9cb8-ab6a01106b2a

A very nice 2853.
Lovely gold pie pan with arrowheads. however, the case is a little polished.
So, IMHO, a very beautiful dress watch but not a Grade A collector’s piece.

I don’t think the intention of this thread was to ruminate on the likely values of specific Connies (the OP wanted to know the ballpark figure for a particular reference)

Therefore, it is enough to say that WOK estimates are always quite strong.
The lower end of the estimate is usually the reserve price and if the watch was really sharp it might be worth somewhere approaching the upper end of the estimate - if someone really had to have it.
(I think approx £3,500 (bottom end) is way too much for the watch in this condition and approx £4250 (top end) would be too much even for the watch in mint condition)

it will be interesting to see how dress watch prices fare in the current uncertain climate.

aprax · Mar 27, 2020

I don't like the dial of the WOK watch at all. It has the brushed finish you would expect from a silvered dial.
The deluxe dial, which this is supposed to be, should have a mirror finish on the outer ring.

Peemacgee · Mar 27, 2020

aprax
I don't like the dial of the WOK watch at all. It has the brushed finish you would expect from a silvered dial.
The deluxe dial, which this is supposed to be, should have a mirror finish on the outer ring.

I quite like it -makes a change from the mirrored dial facets (which can look a bit too bling)
I think its probably a dial manufacturer thing, as I don't see anything wrong with it to make me think it isn't correct.

here's a better pic of it

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