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Possibly my first Omega Pie Pan Constellation, Dog Leg, Date...

lucreative
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Hi OF. I've inquired about an Omega Pie Pan Constellation before, but passed due to a refinshed dial. Then I bought a few more vintage watches in the meantime, but that Pie Pan still beckons me. I just love the glimmer.

Today, my watchmaker offered me this Pie Pan, Dog Leg Constellation that he just got in. He literally just got it in and didn't do much research, so he was willing to sell it to me for a decent price. Immediately, the condition of the dial and case got me. He didn't open the caseback for me, but I could always bring it back for him to service/resolve any issues. It's a "date" Constellation, but non-quickset? (Edit, opened up the caseback and it's a Cal 561). Even comes with a bonus period correct 16mm Omega buckle?

What do you all think? I beginning to learn how to fish more and more, but I hope not to waste. Dial looks clean, but I'm always so afraid for the possible redial. My eyes aren't as good as they use to be. I don't even know for sure the exact reference.

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lucreative
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Edit: Opened up the caseback and it seemed to be decently clean. So this Connie Pie Pan is a 168.005 in a HF case with the Cal 561. How is the movement condition? I see rotor marks.

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AG77
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I really like it. Case and lugs look good. Someone went nuts trying to open the caseback at some point and scratched it up pretty good, but that doesn't bother me so much. Original crown and crystal. Omega buckle is a plus, those alone are pricey. And the dial looks great in my opinion. I prefer these without lume. I don't see the rotor marks.

What does your watch maker consider a "decent price"?
 
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I can see a ring mark that might be rotor related? Usually the top of the rotor touching the caseback is the tell, and it'll hit there before hitting the plate. So unless it was replaced in a service, I can't imagine that this is a problem.

But otherwise it is a peach. Unpolished, which makes me forgive the bit of scratches, and the caseback doesn't bother me.

Perhaps see if the jeweler will open it up and try to wiggle the rotor enough to see if you should be concerned, else I'd say buy it if it is reasonably priced.
 
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Also, it should be semi quick date. Push/pull of the crown to its furthest position will advance the date wheel. It's pretty straightforward once you do it a few times.
 
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AG77 AG77
Push/pull of the crown to its furthest position will advance the date wheel.
No, this is a 561.
 
SOG53
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I like the watch. If it’s good price I wouldn’t worry about crown
Maybe negotiate a serviced price
 
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The dial looks good and the case is really good too.
I would expect perlaging on the inner case back for a 20m serial dogleg - but then again I can’t remember seeing an HF dogleg case.

A question to the wider forum members - Could it be a later replacement caseback?
 
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Thanks everyone for your valuable input! As some saw from yesterday's WRUW, I ended up getting this Pie-Pan Dog-Leg Connie from my watchmaker. Another OF member even pointed out that this early Connie has the black Onyx inlays in the indices too (which I didn't notice). My watchmaker definetely gave me a good price (based on condition of this example), but the better thing is that he gave me a discount on service for this watch in the future (thanks SOG53). Now trying to figure out if I should just wear it on the Alligator strap and vintage buckle that it came with or find a period correct BOR. What would make this wear larger than 34mm?

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Remember that all Constellations from this era were delivered on straps. The bracelets were available from dealers as extra cost options. That's why we see some bracelets made outside of Switzerland. They were made by the Omega authorized contractors in the country of sale.

It really is just a personal preference.
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Dan S
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If it's not big enough for you, why did you buy it. TBH, you appear to have a small wrist.
 
lucreative
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Dan S Dan S
If it's not big enough for you, why did you buy it. TBH, you appear to have a small wrist.
Pictures make this watch look bigger on my wrist, but I'm a bigger guy with 6 3/4 (lol...I missed an inch on the ruler when I first posted) inch wrists. I asked a couple coworkers and they both said this watch looked small on me. However, with this Connie I didn't care. I love the Pie-Pan.
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SOG53
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Onyx inlays best seen looking at end as they sit down in the steel
Also if you get right lighting you can see a “roofline” effect as they are beveled. If you magnify last image you posted it is visible on 9, 3 and 10 markers.
See @Archers photos on this thread

https://omegaforums.net/posts/1436189/ Archer
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Took these a couple of years ago - illustrates the Onyx inlays well:







Cheers, Al
 
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