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Please Put My Mind At Rest Or Suggest If I Should Act

  1. DJP Feb 10, 2013

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    Hello all,

    If you saw my posts yesterday you will know I was lucky enough to receive the watch below as a birthday present from colleagues.:)

    I am not a collector nor purist, but I do like things to be right. I have learned from here that the watch is a redial, and seen from other posts that many people avoid them. Is this from a collectors viewpoint, and as an "ordinary" wearer I should stop worrying, or have my colleagues inadvertenly bought something they would have rather avoided?::confused2::

    I know the watch was purchased from a very well established pre owned specialist retailer in London, and probably paid a premium for that peace of mind (which is fine), but if in their understandable ignorance they ended up with a sub standard example they would be upset, and it is playing on my mind. They would have no problem returning to the retailer to "have a potentially changing it.

    I like the watch and will wear it with pride but I am sure you can understand my worries.

    I'm currently wearing another present, a Busnell GPS golf range finder watch on my way to play golf. The advances in technology are mind blowing.

    And yes, I am in London so of course it is raining!

    I really appreciate all your input, and am very grateful.

    David
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  2. Sherbie Feb 10, 2013

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    David, I am not 100% convinced its a redial, and there are plenty of genuine examples of Omegas where the dial should have had T markings but didn't, and vice versa.

    There are many Constellation experts on this forum, and I expect more will chime in during the day

    just been on ebay and found this one, without T markings but has lume

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    cheers, Paul
     
  3. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Feb 10, 2013

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    My Connie C from the same era, no Ts.

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  4. ulackfocus Feb 10, 2013

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    I also think it might be an original dial. Didn't want to comment in that thread, but now that the question has arisen separately it seems the place to add my opinion. You have what we call a transition C-case, made at a time when Omega was switching over from the 56x (561 or 564 date at 3) to the 10x1 calibers. They switched the text around on the dial, and yours is not only the correct fonts but the words are in the correct place.
     
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  5. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 10, 2013

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    Dial looks original. Dennis is correct, it is likely a later "C" case from the mid 1970's.

    Movement is a cal. 1011. At that time, Omega was re-issuing older designs with newer movements.

    Here is another example:

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    It is a bit smaller and thinner than the original design.

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
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  6. tomvox1 Feb 10, 2013

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    That is really weird seeing that movement in that case.
    So you're saying that Omega was not using up old cases here but in fact making new "classic" case versions with the updated 10xx movements?
    Are these "throwback" designs in any period catalogs along with their funky 70s brethren?
    Thanks & best,
    T.
     
  7. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 10, 2013

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    Here is an article that explains it all:

    http://users.tpg.com.au/mondodec//Last_Omega_Constellation_Pie_Pan.pdf

    It was a Japan only model, rarely seen on this side of the Pacific. The case is smaller and thinner than the "standard" pie-pan models.

    Here's a 1974 catalog with a similar watch to the OP's in a gold plated case:

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    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
  8. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Feb 10, 2013

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    I think your watch is correct too. I have a buddy who has the same one but gold capped.

    Evan - every time you post that watch, I think about the ones I missed! :(
     
  9. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 10, 2013

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    Don't worry, there will be more. I've never believed the model to be that rare. They are just over in Japan and we often miss them due to the language barrier.
    gatorcpa
     
  10. Wheels Feb 11, 2013

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    For the OP, if those who have commented above believe your watch lume to be original then I retract my previous statements and humbly apologise. Their experience far out weighs mine and I'll happily be wrong. Apologies for any undue stress.
     
  11. Gerhard Feb 11, 2013

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    Sorry for causing some discomfort, I also have to retract my previous statement and also humbly apologise, as my expertise was based on a similar c-shape Constellation I own and the Omega bible, which has some flaws (see my comment in the other thread "the book has arrived").
     
  12. DJP Feb 11, 2013

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    I am extremely grateful to all that have posted here, and to Wheels and Gerhard for coming back. I am thoroughly enjoying learning more about the watch and its' history, I didn't think I would be quite so captivated as I am.

    I am going to have the back taken off today and will post my findings in a new thread.
     
  13. tomvox1 Feb 11, 2013

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    How strange and interesting--almost like an in-house Franken! :)
    Thanks for the link and info & best,
    T.