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Pie Pan Real? General thoughts..
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Zaccardelli1994
·I’m also interested in it’s authenticity..
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Caliber561
·What do you think about this watch based on what you know?
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Zaccardelli1994
·I sense it’s fishy
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Caliber561
·Why?
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Zaccardelli1994
·I’m not convinced regarding the dial. I’m not an expert on Pie Pan however I’m interested in others views. What do you think?
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Spruce
··Sunburst dial fanI’m neither a Constellation expert nor an aficionado, but in those photos it looks to me that the seller/owner has made such little effort to enhance the attraction of a collectible watch that I’d take a punt on it being genuine.
Allowing for the poor photos, the case looks crisp and unpolished (and engraved), the crown matches, the hands look appropriate and the indices and markings could be too. The dial has deterioration bubbles and the crystal does the whole caboodle no favours.
Anyone trying to sell a redial/franken would have done a better job.
Allowing for the poor photos, the case looks crisp and unpolished (and engraved), the crown matches, the hands look appropriate and the indices and markings could be too. The dial has deterioration bubbles and the crystal does the whole caboodle no favours.
Anyone trying to sell a redial/franken would have done a better job.
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Caliber561
·You'll probably find this useful. http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/
Posts like these typically won't get a lot of attention unless you post some of your own thoughts/research on the piece.
You also probably want to say if you're looking to purchase the piece, or if it's a piece you already own, and some background regarding it if you can. That will help members in responding to your own evaluation.
Posts like these typically won't get a lot of attention unless you post some of your own thoughts/research on the piece.
You also probably want to say if you're looking to purchase the piece, or if it's a piece you already own, and some background regarding it if you can. That will help members in responding to your own evaluation.
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Spruce
··Sunburst dial fanIt will also help you to post photos of the movement and inside caseback, and advise of the asking price.
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Zaccardelli1994
·Thank you for your reply’s!
I’m looking to buy this piece on eBay, I have always had a soft spot for Pie Pan’s. My grandfather used to wear one daily. I’m unsure where to start and this is on eBay and is currently sitting on £590.
I work with vintage watches as a novice. I can see the crystal is in need of a little tlc and the watch in general needs some attention. I would love to bring it back to life.
I have asked for movement pictures however I though this would be the best place to come.
I’m looking to buy this piece on eBay, I have always had a soft spot for Pie Pan’s. My grandfather used to wear one daily. I’m unsure where to start and this is on eBay and is currently sitting on £590.
I work with vintage watches as a novice. I can see the crystal is in need of a little tlc and the watch in general needs some attention. I would love to bring it back to life.
I have asked for movement pictures however I though this would be the best place to come.
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Zaccardelli1994
·You'll probably find this useful. http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/
Posts like these typically won't get a lot of attention unless you post some of your own thoughts/research on the piece.
You also probably want to say if you're looking to purchase the piece, or if it's a piece you already own, and some background regarding it if you can. That will help members in responding to your own evaluation.
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Zaccardelli1994
·I’m neither a Constellation expert nor an aficionado, but in those photos it looks to me that the seller/owner has made such little effort to enhance the attraction of a collectible watch that I’d take a punt on it being genuine.
Allowing for the poor photos, the case looks crisp and unpolished (and engraved), the crown matches, the hands look appropriate and the indices and markings could be too. The dial has deterioration bubbles and the crystal does the whole caboodle no favours.
Anyone trying to sell a redial/franken would have done a better job.
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Spruce
··Sunburst dial fanIn the context of my ignorance on Constellations but experience of jumping into eBay with both feet, it’s a gamble.
Obviously, you’ll hope that another OF member will chip in with a positive view but whether he/she does or not you’ll have to decide whether or not to bet.
I suspect that late bidding will attract a sizeable uplift on the price.
The seller appears to be a novice, partly based on the number of sales made in 17 years, partly on the poor photos and absence of a movement photo or movement information. You should factor in a service costing £150-200.
Obviously, you’ll hope that another OF member will chip in with a positive view but whether he/she does or not you’ll have to decide whether or not to bet.
I suspect that late bidding will attract a sizeable uplift on the price.
The seller appears to be a novice, partly based on the number of sales made in 17 years, partly on the poor photos and absence of a movement photo or movement information. You should factor in a service costing £150-200.
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TexOmega
·From the poor pix I can tell this one has been ridden hard and put up wet, many times. It better be cheap in the end.
Movement shots better show a VERY nicely conditioned movement.
Movement shots better show a VERY nicely conditioned movement.
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·Honestly, this watch is priced fairly low, though you should keep in mind that it isn't a bargain.
To me, this seems like a 168.005, probably produced around 1962-1963. The case may be "unpolished," but it seems pretty worn, and in my opinion is not that desirable. The crown should be a steel 4204 with a flat foot logo – Getting a correct one may set you back $100-$200.
The dial does not look like a redial, although the paint has lots of bubbling. This might not be desirable unless you're a huge fan of patina. The crystal may also need to be replaced if it isn't original. (The dome seems awfully high)
If you want to wear the watch on the bracelet, you'll have to get a set of replacement end links.
Opinions will probably differ on this, but if you're okay with the condition this watch is in, I would say it's priced somewhat fairly/a little high, considering it also comes with the bracelet. That said, if you're looking for a Constellation in good condition with little or no patina, it'd be best to wait for another watch. Trying to upgrade this watch to improve this condition will leave you with a bit of a Theseus' Ship problem, and you'll likely run into cost overruns sourcing parts.
To me, this seems like a 168.005, probably produced around 1962-1963. The case may be "unpolished," but it seems pretty worn, and in my opinion is not that desirable. The crown should be a steel 4204 with a flat foot logo – Getting a correct one may set you back $100-$200.
The dial does not look like a redial, although the paint has lots of bubbling. This might not be desirable unless you're a huge fan of patina. The crystal may also need to be replaced if it isn't original. (The dome seems awfully high)
If you want to wear the watch on the bracelet, you'll have to get a set of replacement end links.
Opinions will probably differ on this, but if you're okay with the condition this watch is in, I would say it's priced somewhat fairly/a little high, considering it also comes with the bracelet. That said, if you're looking for a Constellation in good condition with little or no patina, it'd be best to wait for another watch. Trying to upgrade this watch to improve this condition will leave you with a bit of a Theseus' Ship problem, and you'll likely run into cost overruns sourcing parts.
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PieManStan
·From the poor pix I can tell this one has been ridden hard and put up wet, many times. It better be cheap in the end.
Movement shots better show a VERY nicely conditioned movement.
This was interesting. What is the tell of a watch being exposed to water often?
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·This was interesting. What is the tell of a watch being exposed to water often?
"Ridden hard and put up wet" is just an American figure of speech.
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PieManStan
·"Ridden hard and put up wet" is just an American figure of speech.
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·This was interesting. What is the tell of a watch being exposed to water often?
“Used without regard to care, before or afterwards “
