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Pie Pan dial? and original full glass skeleton back on a connie.

  1. Citrusxc Jun 13, 2017

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    Just a noobie trying to learn what I can about Omega watches and their history.

    I can see what a pie pan dial is, but why? Aside from aesthetics, did it ever serve a particular purpose and might there be any interesting story behind them?

    Also, I found a vintage gold constellation at a pawn shop while travelling with a skeleton back. 100% of the watch back case was clear, the sales guy was trying to convince me the watch was worth $10-15,000. He told me the story behind it was that a manager at a company purchased about 15 of these watches for his sales staff and he convinced someone at Omega to make him these watches special. Obviously sounds like he was blowing smoke, but I figured I would ask to see if there is any truth whatsoever to this story.
     
  2. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Jun 13, 2017

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  3. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 13, 2017

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    Pictures needed on the second question.
     
  4. Vitezi Jun 14, 2017

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    I recall these models are called "Kleerback." Unusual, but not that rare, if I remember right.
    @gatorcpa knows more about these, but first, we need photos! :)
     
  5. ConElPueblo Jun 14, 2017

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    Kleerbacks exist of course, but not on Constellations... Would be interesting to see the one the OP found :)
     
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  8. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jun 14, 2017

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    Probably Real, There are Seamaster De villes.
     
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  10. Gstp Jun 14, 2017

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    you are right ::shy::
     
  11. Citrusxc Jun 14, 2017

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    I hope to get back to that pawn shop soon and get some pictures.
    I'm pretty sure it was a Connie, but I could easily be wrong and it might be the seamaster.
     
  12. Rumar89 Jun 14, 2017

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  13. Citrusxc Jun 15, 2017

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    IMG_5446.JPG IMG_5447.JPG IMG_5448.JPG IMG_5449.JPG IMG_5450.JPG Here it is! SN:21263859
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    Excuse the awful photos. I haven't looked into it much at all yet, but the guy at the shop said it's apparently a "salesman sample."
     
  14. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jun 15, 2017

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  15. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Jun 15, 2017

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    Well at least that answers the Connie quandary...
     
  16. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 15, 2017

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    I thought some of the kleerbacks where salesman samples. Was that disproved?

    I agree there is no question it was available at some point to consumers
     
  17. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 15, 2017

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    Neither proved nor disproved.

    In any case, these were not sold in large numbers, mostly due to the 50% premium over a regular Omega Seamaster DeVille. You really had to want to show off the movement to want to pay that much.

    In fact, the price on a Kleerback was close to the price of a steel Constellation back in the early 1960's.

    I think the OP's watch is a legitimate Kleerback, FWIW. It's hard to fake these cases, given that there is no caseback.
    gatorcpa
     
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  18. No Mercy Jun 15, 2017

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