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Patek Philippe: real or fake?

  1. habrisbane Jun 19, 2017

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    Hi all,
    I am a newbie and never have a chance to own a Patek Philippe.
    Can you give any information about this watch 19224947_657764514413722_238328556501354091_n.jpg 19225253_657764587747048_6458348558356074060_n.jpg 19225818_657764611080379_6456789295575442600_n.jpg 19366559_657764581080382_7448985157987898904_n.jpg ? Many thanks
     
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  2. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jun 20, 2017

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    Fake. When you try on a real Patek you will understand. The finishing is spectacular. Not so here.
     
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  3. Stewart H Honorary NJ Resident Jun 20, 2017

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    Let's hope they weren't asking for the $70,000 plus that a real 5906P sells for second hand.
     
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  4. habrisbane Jun 20, 2017

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    Can you tell me more? are there any special points to know? Thanks
     
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  5. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 20, 2017

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    One glance lol. A lot of work to mess up the easy stuff.
     
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  6. habrisbane Jun 20, 2017

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    ask for 40,000 $. What do you think? Thanks
     
  7. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 20, 2017

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    Yeah they are the most highly finished watches you will ever see. The date wheels are off a bit and the subdial printing is bad. Geneva waves look to low quality.

    It's worth 100 bucks in scrap gold if your lucky.
     
  8. tyrantlizardrex Jun 20, 2017

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    So a whole table of fake "high end" watches... which "dealer" were you at?
     
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  9. BartH Follows a pattern of overpaying Jun 20, 2017

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    Are you guys aboslutely positive? That would be a scary mimicking of the movement construction.

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  10. panaitchrono Jun 20, 2017

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    for 40k it had to look a little similar..:)
     
  11. tyrantlizardrex Jun 20, 2017

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    Not at all... That's why I'm wondering where the picture was taken... there's what? 6 more Pateks on the table in the background?
     
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  12. tyrantlizardrex Jun 20, 2017

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  13. Speedmasterfan88 Jun 20, 2017

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    Of topic, but this shouldn't realy be there?!?

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  14. tyrantlizardrex Jun 20, 2017

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    Ouch. ::facepalm1::
     
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  15. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 20, 2017

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    Not if you looked up that movement and realized it's derivation.
     
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  16. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Jun 30, 2017

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    Yeah... also wouldn't think to see such finishing on a fake Patek. Give me the evidence.
     
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  17. Varnado Jul 1, 2017

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    5960P first version with Anthracite dial. Watch is real, don't listen to what anyone else says. I have handled 20 of these over the years and owned quite a few. You can also look between the lugs at 6 o clock and you will see a set diamond which is always found on modern PP Platinum cases. For $40,000 it must be missing papers because that is lower than it should be. 45-50k is where they trade now and a very poor investment. Used to trade at 25k OVER list and now they trade at 50k UNDER list. What makes it even more upsetting is that the model is discontinued and historically when a PP model gets discontinued it goes up in value but, this one just keeps falling.

    Pass. Even at 40k it isn't worth it.
     
  18. tyrantlizardrex Jul 2, 2017

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    Something altogether odd about the OPs line of questioning... and the table of Patel's in the background.

    Stolen watches?

    Backroom deals with no papers?

    Hmmm...
     
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  19. Trev The Architect Staff Member Jul 2, 2017

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    I wouldn't assume anything too nefarious is going on without proof, we've seen some pretty crazy shit (like briefcases full of Patek's/Ap's/etc). It's just how some people roll.
     
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  20. Traveler Jul 2, 2017

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    "Stolen watches?"

    I dunno - I think 'is it real?' Is quite a normal noob question, and would be grateful for @Varnado 's intervention. I've had Patek's without papers before and never worried - most normal people often throw boxes and papers away. Anyway, extracts of the archives are pretty easy to get from PP.
     
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