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  1. rick42650 Feb 7, 2013

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    I have had this for some time...not exactly sure what to make of it-but got it for a great price-so no concern there...The watch has a Constellation dial; that looks legit-but not sure.??..Case is 18k and inside case back has the reference numbers for an 18k Omega seamaster chronometer.. caseback also has the very faint "seamaster" on it...crystal and crown are signed...

    Movement is 505-which I believe also could be correct for Seamaster chronometer...Has the dial (and hands) been replaced? Why would someone replace the original Seamaster dial? Is the dial authentic? I am no expert-but overall the watch is in excellent+++ condition-and looks possibly original...?? thanks! nd
    505.jpg 505-5.jpg 505-3.jpg
     
  2. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 7, 2013

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    I think I've seen dials like that sold as service replacements for Constellations by WatchCo in Australia. Don't know if those were gold dials or not, but I suspect not. Since the Seamaster Chronometres generally had the same movements as the Constellations of the time, the dials would be compatible. Certainly conceivable that the replacement dial would fit inside the case.

    Without a movement or inside caseback shot, I can't tell what specific models this originally was, but I can tell you what it is now...

    A frankenwatch,
    gatorcpa
     
  3. Dablitzer Feb 7, 2013

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    It looks like a Seamaster case, the dial is re-done, I think it's the wrong crown. I may be way off as i've only been collecting for 6 months and nothing surprises me! Wait for others to chime in...
     
  4. rick42650 Feb 7, 2013

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    here is the movement 505-4.jpg
     
  5. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Feb 7, 2013

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    As gator noted this appears to be a modern replacement dial and I would agree, the hands are also new and would not be correct for either a Seamaster or Constellation from 1958/59.

    How about a shot of the inside of the case back so we can check the reference number.
     
  6. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 7, 2013

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    That's a Cal. 505, used in many a vintage Constellation. But the case is a solid gold Seamaster-type case with straight, chunky lugs.

    So the dial still isn't right.
    gatorcpa
     
  7. rick42650 Feb 7, 2013

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    I had it opened when I first got it and the reference numbers were definitely for Seamaster chronometer
     
  8. rick42650 Feb 10, 2013

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    seams-new.jpg here is a pic of the case back.... ref: 2846-48 2909-sc Does anyone know these references??
     
  9. ulackfocus Feb 10, 2013

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    Yep, the 2846 / 48 is a Seamaster case that would house a full rotor 50x IIRC. The dial is definitely a service replacement that was made in the 70's or 80's. This is a franken watch for sure. Most of these 50's and 60's Omega watch parts were interchangeable with lots of models.
     
  10. tomvox1 Feb 10, 2013

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    Maybe it once was a Seamaster with Chronometer-grade movement???

    Screen shot 2013-02-10 at 6.04.56 PM.png
    Best,
    T.
     
  11. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 10, 2013

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    MSNWatch sold a similar watch a while ago. Here's what the original dial looked like:

    [​IMG]

    gatorcpa
     
  12. rick42650 Feb 12, 2013

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    Thanks a lot for your help...if I can just find the right dial!!
     
  13. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 12, 2013

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    That might be a bit of a difficult undertaking if you're after a Seamaster chronometer dial, they're not the most common things at the best of times.
     
  14. rick42650 Feb 12, 2013

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    Yes I know....but if I do find one and change it out-would it always still have a Franken stigma to a potential buyer?
     
  15. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 12, 2013

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    If it had a correct dial, even if it didn't physically come with the watch, but is correct for the watch, IMO that's fine.
     
  16. ulackfocus Feb 12, 2013

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    +1.