The dial is not as bad as the very bad crystal would lean you to believe.(I did get it at a good price at 255 I think) But the dial does need a careful cleaning. 2576 4 Case has been beat on , but not polished. Movement is clean and keeping good time so far.....one day. But the "bump" seems a bit hard hitting. 18XXXXX would put it at 1949 I think. Here is my question, I see a grove around the case back, but it has no rubber seal. Would this have been a waterproof and just missing the rubber seal?