Hi OF,

I'd like to get an Omega Constellation Pie Pan. Actually, there are 2 that are for sale on a Belgian biding website for whom I'd like your advice.

The first one is a 14393 10 SC with the a calibre 561 and the original box. It has been serviced 10 years ago. The case doesn't seems to be over polished as there are a lot of light scratches. The crown is a genuine one but the bracelet isn't original.
Here are some pictures :



The asking price is 1400 € but the highest bid is actually at 675€

The second one is a 168.005 with a calibre 564 (chronometer certified). The seller didn't know when was the last revision made. There are some marks on the dial and the crown didn't seems to be original.

Here are the pictures :


The starting price is 700 €.

What's your opinion about those 2 watches ?

Thanks for your help

 

I'm just curious as to whether the first watch should have that two-tone case. My gut feel is that the case should be gold plated as well since the lugs are. In any case, the price at it's current bid is alright, while the final price is a little too high. The watch will still need a service as 10 years is plenty enough time for oils to evaporate and mean the lubrication in the watch has run out.

The second one is a bit more speculative, since the dial has seen a little bit of moisture, and the rotor looks like it's been scratched before. Also seems to be rotor wear on the inner caseback, so factor in some parts for service. If it goes for around the current price it seems alright for a daily wearer once service and correct crown price is factored in.

 

Eh, have you ever seen a gold-capped Omega before..?

@P.Greg - neither of these are really that attractive, as they are a bit too worn. The first one has had its hands replaced and the case has been polished somewhat soft. The box is missing its insert, and shouldn't be factored in too much in the price, IMO. Had the insert and papers been present, it would have commanded a premium.

The second one has been polished too much as well, the dial is unattractive and the box has no relation to the watch.

Pricewise you don't stand much chance at finding a good Constellation of the era you are looking at in the region of €700. A very nice C-case Constellation with the same cal. 564? Oh yes.

If you want to strike a bargain, read up on all aspects of vintage Constellation, otherwise you're in for a rough experience.

 

No I have not, my knowledge with Connies is lacking in this regard :/ thank you for the new knowledge (and lending a hand to a new enthusiast :> )

 

How can you NOT be a Constellation expert with 600+ posts?!?



All gold-capped Omegas I've seen (so far!) have steel cases and solid gold bezels, while the lugs have been capped. If the watch is gold-plated or gold-filled, it will usually cover the entire case. With plated cases, the case back is usually steel. Exceptions probably exist

 

I'm not limited at 700 € but those 2 were at that price so I thought it could be an interesting deal.

Thank you for your advice. I'll continue to look for the "perfect one"

 

The exception that proves the rule
Pink cap all over - except back of lugs and case back of course