Hi everyone I'm new here and I already start a new thread with my 2nd post, I hope you don't mind.. Even though I already own a couple of vintage Omegas, I'm always looking for a new watch to complete my collection - as probably most of the members here do ;-) So I have been offered a pie pan constellation for a really good price - almost too good to be true. I already bought 4 watches from this guy, e.g. a really nice trésor which is 100% genuine. So I've had good experiences with the guy but nevertheless I'm still careful. I can't help but to feel unsure about the dial. I'm more the collector of seamasters, de villes & genèves, which is why I lack of experience in this matter. In my opinion, everything seems to be just fine (i didn't spot a telltale sign), yet my guttfeeling tells me something doesn't smell right. I've compared the pic with images in my reference book and I can't find anything to be obviously wrong. So here are the 2 questions: - What is your opinion on the dial? - Is this model really a 'classic' pie pan? Thanks for helping me out in this matter! Chronos
Do you have any other photos? I'm probably wrong but this looks like a redial, painted to give the illusion of a pie pan.
Thanks for the quick answer @ all Wow, now that's a relief as two weeks ago, I already told the seller I wouldn't be interested. But then I caught myself going through the pictures all the times and I already considered thinking twice about it. Thanks a lot! Here are 2 more pics, as it was asked for.
Thanks for all the answers. As I'd like to learn identifying redials by myself: Could you please give me some tell-tale signs as for example "lettering is applied too heavy" as PVT-Public wrote? Thanks a lot in advance!
The best place to do your homework : http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.fr Check the "key collecting posts"
What jumped out at me is on a correct one, the Pie Pan is actually raised. On the non-pie-pan versions, the minute markers follow the contour of the case. If you notice on yours, they run straight between the hour markers, giving the illusion of being a pie pan. Real pie pan
Another common problem is that the words "Swiss Made" are too high on the dial. Here is an example of the watch you were looking for with an original (but properly aged) dial: The words should almost be touching the gold ring at the bottom. On your example, they are a bit higher: It's also too white and there should be no minutes register under the gold markers. There are a few more subtle differences. This redial is scary good though. gatorcpa
There's one more glaring issue with this watch. Can anyone spot it? Hoi is ineligible for this. Hint - has nothing to do with the dial. gatorcpa
This is just my opinion and could very well be wrong. But if the hands are lumed shouldn't the cut outs in the hour markers have a dot of lume?
If the hands are lumed - should there be a 'T' after Swiss made. If both hands and hour markers are lumed it should say 'T Swiss Made T' ?