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  1. OMGNewbie Mar 11, 2019

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    Hi everyone,
    Recently I have purchased my first vintage Omega and afterwards I read that it’s 352 movement is considered a chronometer. Oddly, as you can see, it doesn’t say so on the dial. Could this be a a redial or service dial? Does that reduce the value of the watch?
    Thank you!
     
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  2. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Mar 11, 2019

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    What's the reference number? It's inside the case back.
     
  3. OMGNewbie Mar 11, 2019

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    I don’t have the tools to open the watch at the moment, but I think it’s 2577
     
  4. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Mar 11, 2019

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    I don't think it's a redial. I think the movement may have been swapped out because a 2577 (I agree on the reference) would have a 351 or 354 but rest assured, there will be someone more knowledgeable coming along. I'm pretty sure the crown is a replacement, too.
     
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  5. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Mar 11, 2019

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    I think the dial is original , inside of case back you may see double reference 2577 and 2520.
     
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  6. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Mar 11, 2019

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    That would explain the movement but not the lack of chronometer on the dial. Or, is this one of those situations that chronometer may not have been on an original dial?
     
  7. ConElPueblo Mar 11, 2019

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    From my observations, a Seamaster with a serial number that low should have the old, rounded logo. I'd say it has a replacement dial.
     
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  8. OMGNewbie Mar 12, 2019

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    That is a good explanation, but it could it be that Omega produced at the time both types of logos?
    For example, I found this site that seem to have many examples from the period (1951-1953 to which the serial number 12,67 M refers to, as far as I can understand) that have both the rounded logo and the coat-hanger logo.
    http://database.omegaaddict.com/members/member.php?mode=search
     
  9. ConElPueblo Mar 12, 2019

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    By "coat-hanger logo" are you refering to the "Seamaster" script? I should probably clarify that I mean the applied Omega logo itself, which (again, from my observations!) changed somewhere in the mid/late 13mil range from a rounded logo to a more squared off design.


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    I am not stating that the change came at once and is universally applicable across the range of Omega watches, but I'd be surprised to learn that it took place in the span of 1mil watches produced. Combined with the mis-match dial/movement, my bet is that it a transplanted dial. I struggle to think of any scenario where Omega wouldn't put Chronometre on the dial of a such certified watch.

    If I was you, I'd enjoy it for what it is and -probably- feel a bit smug about the pedigree movement inside. A bit like owning a Lancia Thema 8.32 from the eighties that has a 32 valve 8 cylinder engine :D
     
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  10. OMGNewbie Mar 12, 2019

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    Yes, I was referring to the seamaster logo, and yes, I can clearly see your point about the Omega logo, it totally makes sense, thanks!
    I like the car comparison :)
    Is there anything you can say, based on the picture, about the condition of the movement?
     
  11. ConElPueblo Mar 12, 2019

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    Not really, sorry. From the look of it, I would guess that there is some wear on the rotor, right? If there is a corresponding area of wear on the inside of the caseback where the rotor has rubbed against it, make sure to get this addressed at a service.
     
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  12. Jantar May 7, 2019

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    I was reading this thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/black-honeycomb-dial-what-do-you-think.94511/#post-1227415 and posted a couple pictures of my Seamaster. I checked my movement serial and it is 13,62mil and has a squared off applied logo. I obtained this from the original owner who tossed it in a drawer when it broke and never had it serviced. (It was a broken balance staff).

    Is it known when the actual cut-off for the change from rounded applied logo to squared applied logo was? Anyone have an earlier example with a squared off applied logo?

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