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On the news: Canadians could be banned from the US forever if they smoke legal pot

  1. alam Sep 21, 2018

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  2. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Sep 21, 2018

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    Not just from smoking it, but as the article says if you work in the industry, even for the government run pot stores and even if you don't partake yourself, your access to the US could be in jeopardy.

    One thing not mentioned is that if you are an investor in the industry you could also receive a lifetime ban, and this has already happened to a number of heavy investors. Considering that many Canadians likely have mutual funds with pot companies in them, and don't even know it, this may be a big issue going forward.

    Seems odd considering that something like 30 US states have legalized either medical or full recreational pot use...

    Cheers, Al
     
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  3. Dan S Sep 21, 2018

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    As a resident of the state known for starting the trend in the US, I really hope that this wave sweeps across enough of the country to make it clear that federal laws need to change. Personally I'm completely agnostic on the issue. However, we have definitely seen a major influx of people who move here deliberately to be able to smoke it legally, and those single-issue people aren't necessarily the most desirable residents.
     
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  4. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Sep 21, 2018

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    Marijuana? Why no, officer – never!

    But...[poorly suppressed giggle]...would you happen to know of a convenience store somewhere in the vicinity that sells Häagen-Dazs?
     
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  5. MauiSurfBrah Sep 21, 2018

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    I completely agree. This is one subject that I feel should really be updated and relaxed on the federal level. I still think that states should have some say in the matter of how their state handles the sale/use of products containing marijuana though. Then, when I read articles like this one, it makes me even more frustrated with other policies which affect the country as a whole; as in this case immigration and tourism. It would be completely ridiculous to ban a fifty-year-old architect, crossing the border with his family to go on a vacation to Disneyland because he smoked pot once or twice in high school and was honest with the border agent when asked about past use. ::facepalm1::
     
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  6. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 21, 2018

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    Meh....

    Difference between a law being on the books and actually enforced.

    Keep in mind the law has been around for decades.
     
  7. Shabbaz Sep 21, 2018

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    Dont worry. The canadians can visit my country (the Netherlands) any time.
     
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  8. MauiSurfBrah Sep 21, 2018

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    Haha! Good point. I'm looking forward to a visit myself, next year!
     
  9. Shabbaz Sep 21, 2018

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    Damn, if I can remember correctly. I grew up in a coffeeshop... And look where it brought me today!
     
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  10. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Sep 21, 2018

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    This isn't theory if that is what you are suggesting...it's already happening at the border...
     
  11. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Sep 21, 2018

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    Why would we need to?
     
  12. Shabbaz Sep 21, 2018

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    Amsterdam... beautiful and relaxed city.
     
  13. alam Sep 21, 2018

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    and mild winters :)
     
  14. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Sep 21, 2018

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    I'm sure it's a nice place. We have a lot of beautiful and relaxed cities here too, and in less than a month pot will be legal across the entire country, not just one city. The only other country that has done this so far is Uruguay...
     
  15. Shabbaz Sep 21, 2018

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    Is that a problem?
     
  16. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Sep 21, 2018

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    Is what a problem?
     
  17. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Sep 21, 2018

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    We don't have those!
     
  18. Shabbaz Sep 21, 2018

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    Legal pot?
     
  19. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Sep 21, 2018

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    Why would it be a problem?
     
  20. Faz Sep 21, 2018

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    My experience...

    I was arrested in 1983 for smoking a joint in a local bar's washroom by an overzealous cop. I was convicted for possession and sentenced to a $ 100.00 fine and one year probation. I crossed the border hundreds of times into the US over the last decades until in 2015, while travelling to CT, the border guard asked me if I was arrested in the past. I answered yes, in 1983 for the reason stated above. I was banned for life.

    To be able to travel into the US, I need a waiver. Cost? All tallied up, $ 1100.00. My first waiver was good for one year. Once expired, I needed to go through the ropes again, another $1100.00. This waiver is good for 5 years (the maximum). I'll have to reapply for another one before this waiver expires.

    Worse than the outrageous cost, the bureaucratic hoops you have to jump through. Pure fucking hell. I hear it's about the same process if a US citizen faces the same dilemma trying to cross into Canada.
     
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