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On a vintage mission, on an autumn Sunday, in the low end segment.....

  1. marturx Oct 19, 2015

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    What to do with a beautiful autumn Sunday, when you are a watch nerd?

    I´m constantly monitoring our local Craigslist. It´s very seldom nowadays I find any interesting listings, but I continue to look more or less out of pure habit, more than in a hope to find any good buys. In the past I have made som very nice acquisitions, so every once in a while something do surface, or at least did.

    This past Saturday I found an interesting ad. I contacted the seller by mail. The responses I got were very short. I realised that this was not a person that I wanted to take the risk to send a larger sum of money in advance to, and then get (maybe) a Watch (in unknown condition) in the post in return. The watch was 150 km away, I thought, what the heck, I have nothing better to do on this beautiful day! :D

    So off we went, my SM300 beater and I

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    150 km, 1 and an half hour later, I found myself at the living room table in a very nice house, in the front of a very nice and polite man who offered me coffee and a look at some nice watches that he had assembled visiting markets and auctions. The one I had came to see, and hopefully buy, where there of course too, and after some nice conversation the chrono in question sat on my wrist.

    Heading home again
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    It´s a beautiful time of the year, the autumn with the clear and somewhat chilly air, and all the nice colours in the woods!

    Almost at home again
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    I think you all can see the 50ies chronograph in the blurry picture above :)

    Home in my yard, it´s safer to take a good picture of my buy of the day

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    A pretty rare bird indeed! My point with this thread, is to show that there are still equally collectible as priceworthy watches out there to be collected! :) A number of years ago, I drove 800 km in one day to collect a Railmaster 2914. I spent 600$ more on the Railmaster than on this Tissot chrono.... But the hunt is still the same thing, and the people you meet during the hunt are also the same. Even if I wouldn´t have dreamt of, back in the days, to drive 300 km to collect a Tissot, even if a chronograph

    After some clean up (before it goes to the watchmaker for service/ cleaning and some additional esthetical touch-up), it looks actually pretty good. The only flaw on the watch being a scratch/ mark in the edge of the dial between 12 and 1 o´clock. But I guess it´s very hard to get it all, rarity AND excellent condition!

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    The ref being 174. I know Lemania used it too. (I sold one such on the Forum not long ago. It´s now living it´s life in the windy and chilly Chicago, which is pretty much the same climate as we have here, where it left from!)

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    The movement is 27CH-41H which was later and at Omega designated 321. In the Lemania branded chrono it was designated 2520. The serial on this one just a few hundreds away from the movement in the Lemania I sold. The serial range, places it in the mid 50ies.

    Tissot krono, verk 27CH-41H.jpg

    One more detail that contributed to my decision to pick this one up, was an engraving on the caseback
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    It says "For proven resourcefulness/ The North Sea 23-12-1960/ Röda Bolaget" Röda Bolaget is a Swedish company that provides tugboat services and is still in operation. The first owner of this watch obviously made an heroic achievement in the North Sea the day before Christmas in 1960. So the watch have a story behind it, and I would like to find out what it is. I will update the thread if and when I find something about it.

    Now, is this watch a good investment? I´m not so sure, but there is an easy way to triple my money! All I will need is a fine pen and a steady hand! :D

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    If there´s anyone else on the Forum owning a chrono with the reference 174, please do share it in the thread! And Ed, you´re disqualified! ;)
     
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  2. lillatroll Oct 19, 2015

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    Great find and nice write up. I hope you find out more about who the watch was presented to and why.
     
  3. tpatta Happily spending my daughter’s inheritance Oct 19, 2015

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    Nice find and great story.
     
  4. Hijak Oct 19, 2015

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    Congratulations on a great find and story to boot...I was going to comment that this looks really familiar to a Lemania I picked up from a certain someone recently!;) But I will restrain myself from posting a picture, as requested.:whistling:

    P.S. Love the alpha hands!::love::
     
  5. Pahawi Oct 19, 2015

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    Great write up Martin - thanks for sharing:thumbsup:
     
  6. styggpyggeno1 ΩF Enforcer ....and thread killer Oct 19, 2015

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    Super post. Thanks!

    "Our local Craigslist"
    gave me this one from the first owners son. I agree on it being fewer interesting watches - and further apart today, but still there are watches to be found there.

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  7. cristos71 Oct 19, 2015

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    Looks like a great road trip and well worth the drive.

    I also have a 174, mine´s a -3. I always call it a 2451 as I think that has the same case shape as ours and is a more often seen reference for that shape.

    I really like the chunky screw back case and they do wear very nicely on the wrist :)

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  8. marturx Oct 19, 2015

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    I do remember that one JE. Actually I did find my first Flightmaster, on the same site as you found yours, just a few weeks earlier. If not, we would have had another competition for a vintage watch! Which I most likely would have lost, since I haven't been able to beat you even once, when competing for the same watch, ha, ha! :)
     
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  9. marturx Oct 19, 2015

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    Great! There you go, the Omega branded variant. Thanks for sharing!

    Ed, maybe you could show yours too, after all, so that we have the 3 brands represented. Unless someone else will step up @Northernman
     
  10. Northernman Lemaniac Oct 19, 2015

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    Tjena Martin,

    Just read your story. Lovely find, and it shows that a nice driving trip sometimes can be topped!

    I have only one Lemania CH27 with a ref 17408. However this one does not have the waterproof pushers.
    This one is also much older than your Tissot based on the serial.

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  11. Hijak Oct 19, 2015

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    All right then...
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    My reference 174...
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    With a cal. 2520
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  12. Northernman Lemaniac Oct 19, 2015

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    Or a nice Lemania dial?
    Dial From Christian CH27 IMG_4339.JPG
    A pity IMO but the Omega version would fetch three of four times the price over an in-house Lemania version.
    Omega never touched these watches anyway. 100% made in l´Orient.


    Almost forgot I have the 1956 Catalog.
    Here is the ref 174:
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  13. Peppe Oct 19, 2015

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    Nice find! I try to keep an eye out as well, but finding the good pieces is not easy with all the poor condition or franken ones out there! Congrats!
     
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  14. Davidt Oct 19, 2015

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    Great little bit of bed time reading.

    I love the excitement of driving to a watch deal. Especially when you've only got a brief description and a few grainy pictures to go on.
     
  15. citizenrich Metal Mixer! Oct 20, 2015

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    looks good!

    thanks for sharing
     
  16. Brench Oct 21, 2015

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    Hear hear!
     
  17. Emiel Apr 16, 2019

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    Guys?
    Is anyone able to date this movement number?
    It's supposed to be a Lemania 2310/2520...in a Sutter chronograph, which looks very similar to the Tissot...
    My Sutter chronograph (4).jpg
    That's the backside, now the front:
    My Sutter chronograph (1).jpg
    And the resembling Tissot:
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    (I don't know who owns this last picture, but if the owner doesn't like me posting it here, let me know, I will remove it.)

    Kind regards,
    Bart (IG: Emiel911)
     
    Edited Apr 16, 2019
  18. Northernman Lemaniac Apr 16, 2019

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    Cool watch!
    My best estimate on the serial number is 1947-49.
    Cheers
     
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  19. Emiel Apr 16, 2019

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    Thank you!