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Omega vintage pocket watch (1915?) found in a tiny Indian antique shop

  1. Denizined May 22, 2016

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    Can anyone guess if this pocket watch is fake or not? Let me know if you need any more pics.
    Thanks in advance
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  2. JimInOz Melbourne Australia May 22, 2016

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    A genuine Omega pocket watch that's had a hard life but cleaned up and serviced it will be OK.
    Hands are a bit of a mix but that can be expected for the condition and age, dial looks very clean but that's acceptable if it's the original enamel dial.
     
  3. Denizined May 22, 2016

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  4. Denizined May 22, 2016

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    How much is such a thing worth? Are we talking in the hundreds or thousands of dollars or not much at all?
     
  5. JimInOz Melbourne Australia May 22, 2016

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    For that condition practically nothing. Have a look at eBay completed listings to see what similar items have sold for.
     
  6. Denizined May 22, 2016

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    A bit of a noob question but how come these vintage pocket watches are significantly less valuable than the modern watches? Aren't they supposed to be rarer? At the time they came out wouldn't they have been equivalent to thousands of dollars in today's money?
     
  7. JimInOz Melbourne Australia May 22, 2016

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    There were millions of Omega PWs made in the 19th and 20th centuries, as well as millions and millions from other manufacturers. They are not rare.

    They are however, very rare in perfect, or even decent condition, and that's what governs the price.

    Compare the two.
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  8. Tire-comedon First Globemaster May 22, 2016

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    I seriously doubt that the dial is original, the logo and font should be different for this period. It would be interesting to take it off (or have it taken off by a professsional if you don't have the right skills and tools) to see if it is an enamel dial and if it has its feet. If the dial is enamel with the right feet, then one explanation is probably that the logo and the name were added later. Omega watches of this period didn't always had the name and/or logo on the dial, so maybe someone later wanted to have it added.
     
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  9. Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe May 22, 2016

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    Easy, nobody wears pocket watches any more (except myself and a few other loons) whats the use of a watch you won't wear?
    so, no market = crap prices

    I've got a small collection of very high quality railroad pocket watches and I've rarely paid over $500 for any of them.

    I've had a few Omega pocket watches as well.... they were 200 - 300 each in very nice shape.
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  10. Pvt-Public May 22, 2016

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    Hello from another loon.

    To me it looks like the hands are mis-matched and at least the "Omega" and logo have been re-painted. You can see the difference in the lettter size and the "Omega" feet.
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  11. Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe May 22, 2016

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    it could even be the original face, I've seen them with no name before, or a replacement. Somebody probably smacked the crystal, damaged the face and screwed up the hands, so whatever was available was fit at the shop.

    Somebody likely added the logo later, maybe the watchmaker trying to make the replacement face look the part.
     
  12. Canuck May 22, 2016

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    Here's the railroad approved version of your Omega. The name on the dial is Louis Brandt & Freres. Louis Brandt was the founder of Omega, His sons re-named the company Omega, circa 1903. This is a 19-jewel Brandt model CCR which was railroad approved in Canada, and in Europe. It is over 100 years old. This is considered by some collectors to be a highly collectible version of your 7-jewel Omega. There aren't a lot of these around, so you might expect them to bring a premium price! They don't! Collectors (generally) aren't real interested in them, but I really like
    them! I have two of them, and both were acquired for less than $500.00 (Cdn.), total. Rarity nor age count for much in determining what something might sell for, if few people want them!


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  13. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids May 22, 2016

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    I agree with those above.

    The signature and logo are likely both not original. The script is messy and of a different shade. The rest of the dial might be original. Nothing looks off about it, IMO. Clean and appropriate in style.

    I would say that at least the minute hand is replaced.

    Pay attention to how dirty that movement is... even for watches that old, a movement that dirty is usually avoided.
     
  14. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder May 22, 2016

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    i have great affection for India, and the Indians having lived there years ago. A kind, generous and welcoming culture, but ruthless traders.

    If you paid that Indian trader less than you can recoup later I will be AMAZED.

    Like I said, I have great affection - and I too get drawn in to "tiny anique shops" there. I once bought a vintage shotgun in Jaipur. Three months of beauracracy I got the paperwork. Only to arrive in New Delhi to be told that all the permits and licences were valid only in Rajasthan not Uttah Pradesh where I was now the illegal holder of a weapon.
     
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  15. dennisthemenace Hey, he asked for it! May 22, 2016

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    That's interesting William. Was it an English make?
     
  16. Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe May 22, 2016

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    *sigh*

    I really wish people would stop posting pictures of CR & DR series Omega railway watches....... its just too cruel!

    Maybe one day I'll get lucky and find one. Before they get too insanely expensive.
     
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  17. Pianist A 12 inch WHAT?!?!? May 22, 2016

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    Indeed the omega logo has been re-painted.
    The movement is in very bad condition.
     
  18. rshroff May 24, 2016

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    Here is an ultra rare OMEGA CHRONOMETRE Pocket Watch Calibre 19´´´ SOD Highest Grade with snail cam from 1905
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