The User TNTwatch, in another thread, show me a detail of my watch and I started to compare this kind of dial and I tried to do a classification.



Exist 2 types of blue dial "Soleil",

first for reference 105003-65

(photos of an example passed recently in a London Auction).



second for 145012-67




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There are other types, much less known, differ glossy paint and Blue / Gray shade.

2998s and 105002-62.

Note a detail that I could observe on these dial,

the second/minute track more large

consequently the minute hand away from the minute track, tritium indices just lean on the step dial also minute track very distant from the step.

My 2998


dial courtesy A. Isnardi


105002-62





balck dial 2998 to compare




105003-65 Swiss Made



3rd type Soft Soleil long index

105002 T SWISS MADE T


example of 145012-67 -68










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105003-65 "Soleil" courtesy Doctor Steel







with a 145012



Courtesy Ginobi (black standard grenè + grey glossy + blue/grey glossy)

 

@kyle L , recently?!

 

Interesting post, thanks. That 105.003 from Doctor Steel is unbelievable.

 

Ok, that's just ridiculous...

 

Damn.

was there actually a blue dial 105.00x? Or is that aging that does that?

 

Amazing post, very much enjoyed that!

 

really fantastic pieces. than for sharing the picture and the knowledge. I assume there has to be a follow-up of THE BOOK soon...

 

Me too....want to know .....Is that blue from their birth or because of its age ??? BUT It looks really really gooood .

 

Thank you Matteo, you did a tremendous work on those dials.
To me there are clearly two types, which are very different. The first 2 examples, the one we describe in the book, are soleil dial and more blue. Their short indexes, as well as distant Ts probably mean they were produced later (end 60´s?) and correspond to tests that have not resulted in mass production (as racing dials). Dials of the second type have all age characteristics of their corresponding classical black and were likely produced at the same time. But the difference of position of the indexes show they are not just standard dials that turned grey-blue, but are really different. As we can find them from 2998 to 145.012 means probably they were not test dials, but no explanation of their origin so far.

Speedmaster world is full of surprises

 

This is an awesome post, I've had a keen interest in these Blue dials of late personally they do nothing for me and I can't see the outrageous price increase based on the dial, but then thats why I don't predominantly collect speedies. Superb research and knowledge and this is exactly why I love the forum and have virtually jumped ship completely from the others! Great work and thanks for your effort to educate the community

 

Other forums?

Some (mostly made up) reasons I no longer have the energy for other forums

"Does the brand new PO make me look fat?"

"help! I scratched my watch!"

"Disaster! I can't decide between two identical, mass produced watches!"

MOD message: "you have deeply offended a small minority of rolex collectors by making fun of their milk collection and so you are banned"

 

!what a superb post! , thanks a lot for sharing , some incredible watches

 

I've always wondered whether these blue dials were actually blue or "blue" due to their finishes being slightly off. Thanks for the informative post.

 

Correct! Grazie Greg!

Thanks to all!

 

Sorry for asking a stupid question, but what does " out of line" refer to?
Some lovely watches here,I don t think I will ever want one personally but I can understand why so many people love these iconic watches

 

Which watch can I buy today and sell for a profit next week?

Watch X is heavier than a Rolex so it must be better right?

 

I put "Out of line" because there are some differences from the other

After that Gino Balbi show me a Dial same type with T Swiss Made T (probably a second series)

(is very difficult see the color of these dial from photo)