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Omega Speedmaster 3590.50 has over 40 variations

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One could just collect the ref 3590.50 it came in so many variation.

Recently I made a spreadsheet based on following facts,
3590.50 had during its productions:
  • 3 dials (c3, b4 and b4)
  • 4 bezels (b2, b3, b4 and b5)
  • 3 bracelets (1450/1479/1499)
  • 4 case makers (K.B, A.D.B, GR(SA) and LL)
  • 2 861 movements (17/18 j)
  • 2 case backs (short tail and Oblique)

If one combine all the variations, accounting for when the different parts where made (some combinations are not possible) one ends up in 48 different variations of the ref 3590.50. This is of course in theory, empirically I have seen around 24 of these variations.

It is such a interesting reference.

Please comment!
 
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Recently I made a spreadsheet
A SpeedSheet 👍 nice work on this very nice reference.
 
Donn Chambers
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All true, but if one collected these 40 “different” examples and then showed it off, 99.9% of the population would ask, “Why do you have 40 copies of the same watch?”

😉
 
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Hi!
Of course, it is not for the general public, not even for Speedmaster fans i general. It is for collectors that has fallen into the rabbit hole, simple put for nerds like me😀
 
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My point is that speedmasters from the 90s are interesting, because there are a lot of ref and variations, even if you don't fall that deep into the rabbit hole. It is a great to start a vintage collection from that decade😉
 
ibis888
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Great discussion.

I agree that no member of the regular public will know the difference between variants, but would anyone know the difference between a DNN bezel 145.022-69 and a DON? A CB case 105.012-66 vs. a HF case? And the yet the collector community values the difference very much.

I think the interesting question becomes: when will the different 3590.50 variants have an impact on the value of a 3590.50? Personally, I prefer the older C3 tall and open S dial and B2/B3 narrow/medium C bezels and would pay a bit more.

You did forget one variant: the "transitional" movement - "seventeen jewels" on the bridge but 18 jewels used in the actual movement.

Movement 2 (no number).webp
 
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Hi!

I also think the 3590.50 with c3/c4 dials and b2/b3 bezel have a premium over c5 dials and add to that the 1450 bracelet and even more premium.

Sincerely
 
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And forgot, great that you mentioned the movement 17 j writing but 18 j in reality. Yes even more variations to consider.
 
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All true, but if one collected these 40 “different” examples and then showed it off, 99.9% of the population would ask, “Why do you have 40 copies of the same watch?”

😉

My partner says that already!
 
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I will get back with some kind of overview of the different variations when I have find a way to convert my pen and paper model to something that is acceptable for the Omega forums members, ie something that is understandable.
 
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What would be interesting to me would be a repository of actual examples with serial numbers and what bezels, cases, dials etc they have. How much overlap was there etc.

A start with mine:
Serial: 48,276,xxx (c. 1991?)
Dial: C5 short S
Bezel: B4
Case: ADB (fir tree)
Caseback: C5 short tail
Movement: "transitional" labelled 17 jewels but has 18 jewels
Crystal: A5 no logo (which I think could be correct, mentioned in MWO)

Front in Hand.webp
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Great!

I will post my 3590.50 soon.

I think it would be a great thing all of the members that has a 3590.50 posted a picture and gave the 5 first digits of the serial.
 
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