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  1. Oscarman

    Oscarman Feb 4, 2019

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    Hi there to all the community.
    My name is Oscar.
    I happen to be the proud owner of an Omega Speedmaster Professional 105.012.
    I have owned the watch for a few years now.
    Even if the watch was serviced at my local Omega Service Center I never had a chance to look at the inside of the watch.
    I was considering posting the watch for sale so I had my friendly watchmaker to open the case back so I could take pics.
    I was slightly surprised when I found that the watch that I believed to be a 105.012-65 has a 105.012-63 stamped on the case back.
    Since I have never heard of such an early model I was wondering if any of the friendly, knowledgeable and experienced forum members could tell me something, anything about this particular year.
    Pic of the case back stamp is posted below.
    Thank you all for your time and patience.
     
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  2. DotOverNine

    DotOverNine Feb 4, 2019

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  3. Dan S

    Dan S Feb 4, 2019

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  4. JanV

    JanV Feb 4, 2019

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    Please post additional pictures of your watch so we can better help you with your questions.
     
  5. Oscarman

    Oscarman Feb 4, 2019

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    Serial number is 20.520.XXX
     
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  6. Oscarman

    Oscarman Feb 4, 2019

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    As I said before, the watch was serviced at the local Omega Service Center. Crown, pushers, hands and hesalite crystal were replaced, yet I managed to get them back from the Service Center. I state this since you all will be able to notice the longer pushers in the second pic.
     
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  7. Davidt

    Davidt Feb 4, 2019

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    Nice watch. Sounds like you know most of what you need to know.

    Hopefully this isn't an attempt at skirting the sales rules.
     
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  8. Oscarman

    Oscarman Feb 4, 2019

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    Hey Davidt... that could be only in the case I would be interested in selling the piece... which is NOT the case.
    I was expecting to find some fellow aficionados saying "Hey... I got one of those"... or "Damn, those are one in a million...". :)
     
  9. JanV

    JanV Feb 4, 2019

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    The serial, and the transitional movement in your picture seems to match up your observations of it being an 105.012-63. This watch was produced in very scarce numbers. Nice.
     
  10. OMEGuy

    OMEGuy Feb 4, 2019

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    The 105.012-63 is a rare and transitional reference. The movement # is matching for me and despite of the service parts mentioned the watch looks basically legit IMHO.

    But it seems as if the previous owner had a problem with the missing 'T's besides the 'SWISS MADE' and so had them printed on the dial later on... There should be 'SWISS MADE' only at 6 o'clock.
     
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  11. Dan S

    Dan S Feb 4, 2019

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    According to Speedmaster101.com it is a rare reference. http://speedmaster101.com/105-012/
     
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  12. JanV

    JanV Feb 4, 2019

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    I believe a 105.012-63 shall actually have the T markers on the dial, added later in the factory just like in the picture. For me this feature looks legit.
     
  13. OMEGuy

    OMEGuy Feb 4, 2019

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    Can you show me another '63 with 'T's printed like that?

    Edit:

    http://speedmaster101.com/105-012/

    Dial
    • Stepped
    • Applied metal logo
    • Professional text
    • Usually SWISS MADE – possibly with close spaced T’s
     
  14. Davidt

    Davidt Feb 4, 2019

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    You can understand me think you were selling by the way you said "I was considering posting the watch for sale".

    Regarding the T's, I think both absent and asymmetric T's are correct for this ref. If no one else chimes in I'll check MWO when I get home to see if it gives a serial range for each variation.
     
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  15. Oscarman

    Oscarman Feb 4, 2019

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    Thank you all for you knowledge and your patience. Far too kind. Regards.
     
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  16. OMEGuy

    OMEGuy Feb 4, 2019

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  17. Andy K

    Andy K Dreaming about winning an OFfie one day. Feb 4, 2019

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    Asymmetrical Ts are a known variant and per MWO correct for a -63 (along with no T or close T)
     
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  18. Davidt

    Davidt Feb 4, 2019

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  19. OMEGuy

    OMEGuy Feb 4, 2019

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    @Andy K and @Davidt thank you for the hints and putting it straight. :thumbsup:

    I checked MWO just now and think that this dial is a perfect example of this asymmetric 'T' version,which should be added to the speedmaster101 compendium, IMHO.
     
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  20. WYO_Watch

    WYO_Watch Feb 4, 2019

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