Hi there community,

I am continuing my journey learning about Vintage Omegas...
I spotted on ebay these two similar Omega Seamaster Two Tone Dial, cal 501.
Which of the two minutes hand is correct? The longer one?
Has the second dial been redialed?
Can you help me in getting more knowledge and insight?
Cheers,
Giovanni

 

The hands on the first one are correct. The hands on the second one are lumed which should be paired with a lume dial, but the dial on the second one has no lume on it.

 

The hands on the second one are correct too and if you look a little bit closer you will see the lume plots on the dial.

 

I think this kind of models usually has the shorter ones with the minute hand reaching to the minute indices.

and as @isaacg pointed out the lume lume rule is always a good indicator.

 

Apologies! Didn’t look hard enough. Thanks George. But still don’t know if hands are original.

 

No need to
Cheers!

 

Both. No.
No.
Yes.

 

Thanks for all the input!!
My apologies if I continue to abuse of your knowledge...
I saw today this Omega Seamaster Fullset from 1958...
According to what I learned, the watch should be ok, or?
Is the price too high?

Your comments/opinion are again very much appreciated!

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Definitely not a bargain! very rare to see full sets, however. For me it would not be that important for a watch from the 50ies.

I do not like that it comes from a jeweller and has not been serviced before selling. As you do not know the service history there might be a service due soon - so add some more money!

 

That is pretty damn expensive. Watch is slightly too polished for my tastes and the crown has been changed, but other than that I'd say it checks out.

 

...But replaced with an original one corresponding to that "seamaster era", or?

 

It's from a Constellation of the same era

 

...I had originally the same thought, but was not sure... Now that you confirmed I learned again something

 

... so this Seamaster (from the same time, since serial numbers are both 15XXXXXX) should have the correct crown, or?
It is also on ebay from the same seller

 

Yes, but be aware that this - and a lot of the other items from that seller - is a redial...

 

I read a lot about "redial" in this forum, but I do not know if I really understand, what you mean by it....
It appears that the community here defines a dial as being "redialed" if the dial at some moment in time has been touched, cleaned, repainted, without distinguishing if it was done by a third party watchmaker or by Omega in Bienne itself? Right?

 

The word redial means a repainted dial. The round piece of metal might be original to the watch, but the paint & inking are not.

 

But if it is done by Omega, it is "legitimate", or not?

 

No. It doesn’t matter who repainted a dial - you can never have original finish again. Besides, Omega does some of the worst work on the fonts.

 

Still a redial. Omega doesn't do redials very well, btw - few does. The point is that it is different from when it was sold originally. Dials aren't really parts that get worn like crowns or gaskets, so you'd expect them to be the original item.