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Omega Seamaster DeVille Vintage -What do these Numbers mean ref Year + Metal

  1. jniven Jun 10, 2017

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    I have read everything BUT missed what the Year and meaning of database on my fathers old Seamaster de ville watch. I want to know is it Gold plated or Golf filled or like CD 166.0020 "Gold Cap on Stainless Steel".
    My watch is a Gold Bezel + Lugs (one side) OVER Stainless Steel. Back is s/steel with the Emblem + WATERPROOF. INSIDE THE WATCH IS a 552 CALIBER WITH # 20327322 (1963), and the part I don't understand is Case # 14905 62 SC (I know the early 1963's ? had this 5 digit number, but OUR watch has the Gold Bezel + Outer-side of the lugs, then S/Steel elsewhere. The inside is immaculate and clean (recently cleaned and serviced BUT previously 1 owner and almost mint). I d NOT have pictures of inside, but the watch service-man gave me those numbers when serviced last year. I will LUV to know is it a 1963-65 and CD or ? 165.020, or 165.0020 (which is da same number). The strap was Leather but I am not positive if this was originally leather. It will be up to sale sometime in da future, and I'll keep my Rolex GMT Master II my father gave to me, and passing to my son if that 30 year old ever graduates (Ha!).
     
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  2. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 10, 2017

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    It's gold capped or plated. Stainless backs are found on 99% of gold capped or plated watches from omega and never on a solid gold. If it's solid there will be a gold hallmark somewhere.

    To know the rest I'd have to see the caseback as you have noted 3 model number of which you are correct 2 are the same. 149.05-62 is a wierd number though. It resolves to a parts database.

    Omega DB resolves 165.0022 to a stainless case that matches your watch from 1967. Not sure if the movement DB is not exact on the year, and the DB is wrong about a gold plate also being in that model number.

    I'm sure another member can tell you from the pictures.
     
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  4. jniven Jun 10, 2017

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    the number inside the case is 14905 (space) 62 (space) SC......so what are these from a Data base (Chuckx etc are different showing diamonds etc as number "4" is different than db I saw online
    also what is gold CAPPED vs plated? .....PS, the back is S/Steel with the Seahorse + WATERPROOF below it as-per-normal for a Steel backed deVille....Cheers
     
  5. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 10, 2017

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    Capped vs plated. Basically the thickness of the gold.

    Serial number databases are not exact.
     
  6. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 10, 2017

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  7. jniven Jun 10, 2017

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    NO IT'S NOT, AND YES it was an original from my father, 552 caliber (1963) but Gold plated bezel + crown + lug outside + s/steel elsewhere, as I said, Chuckx etc database is NOT what my watch says, and as ya know- deVille was for usa import and Cases were all changed around etc, but 552 serial # says 1963, the watch came later because de Ville on dial below Seamaster, I am JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF A GOLD PLATED WATCH IS A CD, ST, DD,PP ETC 155.020?
     
  8. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Jun 10, 2017

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    That attitude will win you no friends here. Read this and get back to us when you have photos. https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-omega-posting-guide.383/
     
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  9. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 10, 2017

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    Dude...

    You state the caseback states 14905-62 as the model. Which means the watch is from 62-63 and model 14905. Which a quick google search would have yielded.

    I gave you the link to your watch as stated in Omegas database. The database states it's gold capped. And should have a 670 movement. So either the database is wrong, or your watchmaker told you the wrong movement, or your watch received a new movement at some point.

    If you want to blame anyone blame yourself for not being clear, and not accepting best guesses based on the limited info you gave. Have fun doing the rest of the research yourself since you apparently no longer want my free help.

    Last tip: stop trying to use model number decoders for watches using a different numbering system then your watch, your just confusing yourself.
     
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  10. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 10, 2017

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  11. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 10, 2017

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    Gold capped or rolled gold is a thick layer of gold plate bonded to s substrate metal, usually Stainless steel.

    Gold plate is a much thinner layer of gold applied to the case, usually by electrolysis.
     
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  12. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 10, 2017

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    @JimInOz

    Nothing's going to help him. The 2 DB entries based on the 2 references he gave are not his watch. Well at least according to him.

    The watch is clearly gold filled or plated, with backing information on why given. One reference he gave is later then he thinks it is. The other states it's a front loader, which his is clearly not.

    One shot of the caseback and movement would resolve everything as he has been told. But he wants to be bitchy.
     
  13. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Jun 10, 2017

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    The OPs watch is actually a front loader, most likely 14ct gold filled.

    Only a proper forensic inspection of the interior will solve the riddles.
     
  14. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Jun 10, 2017

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    As I said.
     
  15. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 10, 2017

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    My mistake then clearly he was given the exact info for his watch before he decided to complain.

    A gold capped 14905-62
     
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  16. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Jun 11, 2017

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  17. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 11, 2017

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  18. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jun 11, 2017

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    Regardless of the reference, OPs watch is a CD, Gold Cap on Stainless Steel.
     
  19. jniven Jun 11, 2017

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    Grow FN UP mate - I sent a Legit enquiry, and YES, I am a "professional" retired doc, so drop that American attitude mate! All pics enclosed and it's just an inquiry, not an enquiry into a trump-for-a-president feast, cheers
     
  20. jniven Jun 11, 2017

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    Foo Off -I did research this 5 years ago, as the nice guy says "db and USA Importation of DeVilles caused a bit of confusion, and do NOT rely on DB. As a retired doctor says "90% of the Blogs I've seen (that I know are wrong by profession and experience) are wrong, then Children reply like babies, and play like Fuk Foo, Cheers